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Wisconsin NRB & DNR, Not Political, TRUST ME!!!!!!

9/10/21 @ 9:07 AM
Displaying 61 to 75 of 181 posts
10/3/22 @ 12:45 PM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11

Kind of scary to know that if you're serving the State of Wisconsin in a voluntary capacity you're subject to having your cell phone seized and having your personal communications scrutinized by over zealous political authorities who then release them to the general public. If someone wants to criticize partisanship this should be #1 front and center.  The fact that the supreme court has already ruled on the legality of the matter proves this point. Talk about ethics? Look no further.

10/3/22 @ 8:54 AM
prj
User since 6/19/01

While I agree that the DNR move to skip representation/staff at ONE meeting last fall was partisan retaliation, your position of equivalence is more than a bit strained.  


It feels similar to blaming a homeowner for shooting a burglar in a home invasion.

10/1/22 @ 7:22 AM
madforlabs
User since 12/20/12

DNR refusal to provide representation at NRB meetings in response (at least partly) to Prehn issue was immature to say the least and brought into play the same sort of partisanship we find so objectionable with the NRB.

9/30/22 @ 1:49 PM
prj
User since 6/19/01

Not certain what you think the DNR role is in this anti-democratic debacle.  I'd focus the blame squarely where it belongs: Prehn and the Senate leadership for not holding hearings on some 150 of the duly elected Governor's appointments, including this NRB seat.

9/30/22 @ 11:45 AM
madforlabs
User since 12/20/12

I find this revelation disgusting but at the same time, not at all shocking. My, how far the NRB and DNR have fallen as they wrestle in partisan muck.

9/30/22 @ 11:37 AM
prj
User since 6/19/01

Ethically corrupt Prehn and his handlers, both in government and outside paid lobbyists, shed more light on his decision to stay over a year past the end of his term, and against the will of the WI electorate.  Surprise surprise!  It was politically motivated!

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2022/09/29/wisconsin-dnr-board-member-asks-frederick-prehn-step-down-after-texts-revealed/10459266002/


7/6/22 @ 11:54 AM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11

"Committee assignments were handed out by the chairman to only GOP board members.  Or only to men.   However one measures it, the chair determines the roles of the board members." 

There's no Committee's or Subcommittee's for the NRB, none. Perhaps your talking about the liaisons? If so, and you were paying attention, the first liaison given an assignment (before May's meeting) was Bill Smith and he was given a fisheries liaison assignment. He's not "GOP" (your term), but I believe he is a man (I think - don't really want to offend anyone in todays world by using such a simple binary word for gender).

The entire purpose for the liaisons is to make it easier for the department to communicate with the board. When the NRB asked Sarah Berry if they could count on open communication from the DNR her answer was "we'll take it under advisement." Berry was sitting in for Preston Cole - I'm sure he was gone again in one of his hissy-fits.  So....the liaison's job may be for not if the department continues it's unprofessional conduct.

7/6/22 @ 11:29 AM
robertwhite
User since 3/18/08

“Conformation hearing dates for your reference: Marcy West 3/23/2021, Bill Smith 11/5/2019, Fred Clark - confirmation request withdrawn by Evers, S. Adams - Not necessary due to resignment of Julie Anderson.”

Excellent.  So the legislature had the opportunity to deny the appointments and instead chose to accept them.  

“Your doing the same, although your either to dense to realize it, or have simply turned a blind-eye. The elected legislature is following established law, as confirmed by the supreme court. Our senators are acting in their constituents best interest as is expected and without sabotaging any election.”

The recent decision by the Supreme Court throws everything awry, or at the very least calls out an issue that needs to be addressed by the legislature.  If Evers is re-elected, the court decision means that Mr Prehn can continue his tantrum, and the legislature can continue to ignore the elected Gov’s appointee for the next 4 years.  They can even choose to ignore his future appointees (those 3 positions that expire next year). That is dysfunction.  I do not support that.  I wonder how members currently seated in those expiring terms will behave when their time is up?  

Evidently, I am too dense and you’ll need to explain why/how I’m doing the same.

7/6/22 @ 11:20 AM
madforlabs
User since 12/20/12

Legislators who refuse to hold a hearing and fail to either confirm or deny are not acting in the best interest of constituents but rather for selfish political cronyism.

7/6/22 @ 10:38 AM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11

"Oof.  Guess the legislature missed a grand opportunity to deny these appointees to the NRB?  If only they had held a hearing to confirm or deny them…..if only."

Conformation hearing dates for your reference: Marcy West 3/23/2021, Bill Smith 11/5/2019, Fred Clark - confirmation request withdrawn by Evers, S. Adams - Not necessary due to resignment of Julie Anderson.

"Courting dysfunction and applauding the effort to undermine the results of an election.  Unfortunate."

Your doing the same, although your either to dense to realize it, or have simply turned a blind-eye. The elected legislature is following established law, as confirmed by the supreme court. Our senators are acting in their constituents best interest as is expected and without sabotaging any election. 

7/6/22 @ 9:27 AM
robertwhite
User since 3/18/08

"This far all of Ever's….appointments to the NRB board have done little…….They've shown nothing."

Oof.  Guess the legislature missed a grand opportunity to deny these appointees to the NRB?  If only they had held a hearing to confirm or deny them…..if only.  

“Yikes, hold on Fred, without you we're doomed.”

Courting dysfunction and applauding the effort to undermine the results of an election.  Unfortunate.

7/6/22 @ 9:26 AM
robertwhite
User since 3/18/08

“Robert I didn't applaud Mr. Prehns behavior staying on.  Never said what he was doing was right.”

I’ll admit my statement was truly directed at multiple folks on this thread, and not necessarily to you.  However, my reply was directly to your post, so I apologize.  You’ve never said what he is doing is right, but are you willing to call him out that it’s wrong?

“I do know and that I said him and some others on the NRB have stood up to DNR and have represented and acted in the best interest of hunters as well as deer herd…… Prehn staying on longer whether right or wrong has helped hunters as well as the deer herd.”

Our opinions differ on how Mr Prehn’s decisions as a NRB member have truly helped hunters.  You and I could share the same opinion, and in no way does that give him a special pass to do what he is currently doing.  I’d offer that his current behavior of extending his stay could actually backfire on hunters in the future.

“I hope they have your hearing for Naas and say why or why not they will confirm. Then maybe a lot of people will be happy including you."

It’s not MY hearing.  It’s OUR hearing.  The Legislature works for US.  The NRB works for US.  The DNR works for US.  You should be just as upset about this whole messed up situation as I am.  You don’t want Prehn to leave?  Contact your State Senator and have them hold a hearing to say “no” to Nass.

“What if they have a short hearing and majority say nay, will you be good with that?”

As I said before, I’d disagree with that decision, but I will live with it.  Done. Period.   I would then look forward to Gov Evers next choice. 

7/6/22 @ 8:11 AM
trouter
trouter
User since 7/3/01

A casual review of past meeting agendas will reveal there is more to DNR than hook and bullet issues.   The NRB reviews a wide range of issues managed by DNR.    Naturally, it is beneficial for board members to have varied backgrounds.  

 All the members of the NRB review and make decisions as a board.  


There are all busy men and women.   The work they do is not necessarily seen at board meetings.


Committee assignments were handed out by the chairman to only GOP board members.  Or only to men.   However one measures it, the chair determines the roles of the board members.   Complaints about that decision should be forwarded to the board chairman.

If Fred Prehn vacated his chair, as is NRB tradition, the entire dustup would blow away.  All of the distress caused by his decision is on his shoulders alone.  

7/5/22 @ 9:34 PM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11

This far all of Ever's 4 appointments to the NRB board have done little. Yes, he's appointed 4. They've shown nothing. One who quit after serving just a few months, one hair-brained idea for a deer bounty, one who has no idea about the subjects beings discussed or any personal knowledge regarding them, and one who rubber stamps everything. Yikes, hold on Fred, without you we're doomed. I can't see any of the 3 current jokers staying on after their term is up.

There's still hope that some of you will have your deer extermination come to be. Next May 3 NRB members terms will expire. Win in November and you'll get your deer free forests. Heck, maybe you can even increase the states emission standards and hinder fossil fuel use, drive up fuel prices. Sounds like eutopia.

7/5/22 @ 9:31 PM
ere
User since 2/22/07

That would be great LL, however the legislature is done for the year. Not a bad gig.

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