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please read this....what a Wi DNR warden told me today

6/21/26 @ 6:46 PM
INITIAL POST
fishs
User since 2/17/04

While perch fishing in Kenosha today ( Lake Mich.) and launching out of Kenosha I  asked the LEO (warden) while leaving if I launched in Kenosha and went into Illinois ( 3 miles away) where the perch limit is 15 and caught 15 ( in Ill)  and I had an Ill. license would I be ticketed. His answer was yes because the limit in Wisc. L Mich is 5. I can come up with a whole bunch of examples where his answer makes no sense. What do you think?

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TODAY @ 2:40 PM
oldhunter
User since 2/28/13
One more time,  the warden can't cite you on a guess, he needs to have proof.  If it went to any court, the judge would not hesitate to dismiss the charges. 

Reminds me of a old joke, where a couple were at a lake cottage and in the morning the husband went fishing in a boat. He came back for lunch with no fish. After eating he fell asleep, and the wife was bored, so she decided to take the boat and cruise around the lake.  The husband left the fishing poles in the boat, and lo and behold a warden stopped  the wife who had no fishing license. even though she wasn't fishing, the warden was going to write her up for fishing without a license. She said she wasn't fishing, but the warden said looking at the fish poles ,said but you have all the necessary equip. 
The woman replied, well if you are going to write me a fishing violation, I'll have to charge you with sexual assault. The warden said he did not assault her. The woman replied back, no but you have all the necessary equipment. 

TODAY @ 10:16 AM
lakeshiner
lakeshiner
User since 7/20/09
I wouldn't be concerned about it after talking to him.  Maybe its different there because that is also the closest launch for that area of MI waters so its more common. Its 1 mile to MI waters, whereas the same location of MI waters from the nearest MI launch is close to 20 miles.  Lots of people were doing it, seemed to be the norm there.  That's actually why I asked about it, after seeing all the boats heading for MI.

TODAY @ 9:57 AM
Wright6
User since 2/5/14
Totally get it Lakeshiner, but why leave the door open for violation?

Same but different.  A big part of the reason Muskie was opened earlier was to not have to police people who claim they’re bass fishing but actually targeting Muskie.  Basically avoiding conflict.

TODAY @ 9:43 AM
Carpio
Carpio
PRO MEMBER User since 11/5/17
It seem like it all boils down to if you are lucky or unlucky on that particular day.lol

TODAY @ 9:31 AM
lakeshiner
lakeshiner
User since 7/20/09
I talked to a warden near Saxon Harbor about the lake trout limit on Superior.  Many guys run over to Michigan waters from there because you can keep 3, whereas in WI waters its only 2.  He said as long as you don't stop and fish in WI waters its fine.  Just pick up in MI waters and head straight for the WI harbor.

So I guess you have 2 wardens contradicting each other  .

I see it as I can go to a different state and catch fish, then drive them back with my truck across state lines.  Why would the type of transportation matter as long as I'm not partaking in fishing on my way back.

TODAY @ 8:45 AM
Wright6
User since 2/5/14
Not really the same as you should visually be able to prove where the doe was harvested.

TODAY @ 8:33 AM
oldhunter
User since 2/28/13
How about this scenario, kind of same circumstances.?

I'm deer hunting in a county that allows me to shoot one antlerless deer. I shoot one and load it on my truck, then drive a mile down the road, and in a county that does not have antlerless permits. I stop to make a deer drive with a friend, ( I can still  hunt legally with a antlered tag).
A warden comes along and says I'm violating and liable for a citation, because I have a antlerless deer in a non antlerless county.

Same scenario, and will repat. It is up to the warden for burden of proof. where the deer was shot.  

TODAY @ 7:22 AM
Wright6
User since 2/5/14
I’d say it’s completely dependent on who you get for a warden.  Will he take your word or is he going by the book.  Honestly, if he went by the book I don’t see any way to argue it.  If you’re over the limit, you’re over the limit.  

TODAY @ 7:19 AM
oldhunter
User since 2/28/13
Don't confuse education with intelligence.  

6/22/26 @ 8:47 PM
river_chaser
User since 10/3/12
LOL too many of you guys believe the warden is wrong. He has a 4 year degree in law enforcement plus enforcement powers. You guys have self proclaimed opinions.  Better to re-think yourselves. 

6/22/26 @ 5:26 PM
Wright6
User since 2/5/14
The way I'm interpreting what the warden is enforcing is that while on the water on the Wisconsin side, you're only allowed 5 in your possession.  In this case, it would be hard to prove to a warden that you did in fact catch them in Illinois.  But, I do believe you would still be over your limit considering you're traveling in WI waters.  The only boundary water I fish is the Mississippi and there is common ground between WI and MN on rules and limits.  It's surprising there isnt here as well if it's that close of a distance to travel to catch them.  

6/22/26 @ 4:14 PM
Brent Hess
Brent Hess
User since 12/18/07
Many lakes have special size regulations, slot sizes, etc.

If I'm ever keeping fish from a body of water where the size and/or bag limit differs from the general regulations booklet, I take a picture with my phone that details the date, time, and lake.

I would think if a warden ever inquired what Lake you caught the fish in your possession at, simply show him a picture that shows the time, date, lake, and fish quantity.

I would think a simple step like that would clear up any questions...

6/22/26 @ 7:26 AM
oldhunter
User since 2/28/13
Ticket or no ticket, it would be up to the warden to prove where the fish were caught. 


6/22/26 @ 6:24 AM
Polski
Polski
PRO MEMBER User since 5/11/03
I'm just surprised the limit in Lake Michigan is still 5 after all these years. It's 15 in Illinois and in Geenbay, but 5 in L.M.  sure would simplify things if it was all the same. And on this same body of water, the Michigan side has a limit of 25 perch, wtf.

6/22/26 @ 4:28 AM
44/45
PRO MEMBER User since 3/9/11
Probably the same thinking that if you bought weed legally in IL. and brought it back to Wisconsin where it is illegal.

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