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CWD in Wisconsin

11/4/19 @ 3:09 PM
Swamp buck
User since 1/23/09

Well LittleLuck that was quite a rant about a lot of things regarding deer hunting. What all hunters want is for our deer to forever run free in our wild lands nationwide! I think every hunter if he/she is a hunter wants that. The fact is we DON'T KNOW -YET! Scientists in a lot of states and provinces are working trying to understand what we have on our hands and if there is a threat long term to our deer and elk populations and if it can become a problem for the human population. What I want is for people to understand that this disease is no joke. We need to continue to demand the DNR studies the disease and find out all we can

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2/21/24 @ 5:22 AM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
Turkey, we probably think closer alike on this issue than we realize as long as we both believe CWD exists and results in deer dying from the disease.

Part of the reason why hunters likely disagree on this issue is that deer that die from CWD do not all die within a short window of time like they do with EHD or some other quick acting diseases.  Since dead CWD deer don't litter the land and provide that visual evidence, some folks don't think CWD is a problem or kills deer.

Fish and wildlife are dying everyday in the wild.  How often do you come across carcasses?  Not often, in fact it's rare.  That doesn't mean they are not dying.  It means they are either hard to see, or more likely, that nature is very efficient at cleaning them up.  It's literally a dog eat dog world out there and protein free for the taking is not going to stick around long in the wild.

I agree that money needs to be spent researching all aspects of CWD, including prevalence in the wild.  If you don't know how many deer have it, how will you ever know if your effors to remediate, contain, control, eradicate, treat it, etc. are working?  
2/20/24 @ 5:33 PM
fishfillet
User since 1/8/13
Get rid of wolves and reduce the number of tags issued is the best way to help the heard.  As long as I've been hunting, cwd has been around and hasn't hurt anything. 
2/20/24 @ 10:25 AM
Turkeyslayer2
User since 8/28/11
Gillespie  -  I've never said that prions weren't real or aren't the cause of CWD and I've never tried to post links to articles to prove otherwise.  In fact that is exactly what I've been saying - that they are real and we need to find out how to kill/eliminate those prions that cause the folded proteins and cause CWD and that will protect our deer herd.  What I'm saying is that spending millions upon millions of $'s testing dead deer (and now live deer) to prove that they had/have CWD is pointless and a waste of $$.  It's the same darn thing they've been doing for over 50 years and it's just spinning the wheels and going nowhere.  If they insist on spending that $$ it should be spent researching how to eliminate those prions.
2/20/24 @ 4:15 AM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
"Legitimate articles".  Post some and I'll give you your dues.

Find 2 credible scientists that say and have evidence that prions are not abnormal, misfolded protiens.
2/19/24 @ 10:55 AM
lakeshiner
lakeshiner
User since 7/20/09
Its a lot easier to accept if you just combine both sides.

Most of this 'winter', there have been about 25 deer feeding in the same field where I hunt.  They've been in the same corner for over a week now.  I yelled and told them they can't eat together day after day due to the baiting ban, but they just won't listen to me.  They keep pooping in the field, now their prions are in the soil and the farmer will till up and plant corn next season.  Then they'll be eating that corn with a mix of prions...but like I said they just don't listen to me.

Science to learn how prions work leads to the realization that its futile to stop.  Unless they find a cure and decide to start baiting again to get it to the deer...which would be hilarious.
2/19/24 @ 9:52 AM
Turkeyslayer2
User since 8/28/11
Gillespie and madforlabs you're starting to sound like Trump...everything is fake news and rigged.  Why is it that when we post legitimate articles by researchers and scientists they're "fake" or we're "cherry picking"?  You can't stand it that someone else might actually prove your beliefs wrong?  You'll point to articles that side with your point of view and claim that they're the gospel of truth and there's no way anyone can say different.  I at least admit there's 2 sides to the story and I'm choosing to believe one side.  You guys just think there's your side and that's it.  Who's close minded here?
2/18/24 @ 10:14 AM
fishfillet
User since 1/8/13
I forgot I posted it. I just looked.  Had to go back 5 pages. Either way, we're being hosed.
2/18/24 @ 8:29 AM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
Old, fake news fillet.  How many times are you gonna post the same thing?  The more times a lie is told doesn't make it any truer.
2/17/24 @ 12:30 PM
fishfillet
User since 1/8/13

2/16/24 @ 9:35 PM
madforlabs
User since 12/20/12
What this discussion,  if I could call it that, boils down to is do you believe that the greater majority of of scientists and researchers have pure and legitimate motives to their work, or you feel that most are corrupt and in it for money and a paycheck. I happen to believe strongly in the former and know a number of individuals in high level research work that bolsters my belief. If you don't believe in the "process" and find it lacks legitimacy, then there is really nothing that can be published that might influence your thinking.
PS. The sheep and follow the flock crap is bull. You can stick that where the sun never rises...
2/16/24 @ 8:50 PM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11
Yes Turkey, as Gillespie said, you can't trust those darn biologists. They adhere to "he said" science. I guess his support of researchers is only true when the agenda is adhered to. Any deviation, no matter the truthfulness, will be defined as "cherry picking" and "closed minded" by the sheep.
2/16/24 @ 7:56 PM
madforlabs
User since 12/20/12
Fin, are you even capable of reading two consecutive sentences without misinterpreting their intent. My post merely pointed out there  ARE advances in CWD research.  I've made no value judgement on their utility to myself or anyone else. Personally, I would find a rapid test to be of great value. I have little doubt that CWD will eventually become common in my area. Since my grandkids will eventually be eating deer I harvest, YES, I will test!!
2/16/24 @ 5:27 PM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
Turkey, the TN article u cite is a "he said, she said" deal and nothing has been ruled on in a court of law.  Let the case and the facts play out and stop cherry picking articles that are misleading just because they fall on your side of the issue.

Edit:  The TN biologist was fired and now there's a lawsuit.  He claims one thing and the state claims another.  Before judgment is passed, let it play out in court.
2/16/24 @ 2:33 PM
Turkeyslayer2
User since 8/28/11
Another article by a Research Scientist with over 40 years in wildlife disease study

https://www.texasdeerassociation.com/fake-chronic-wasting-disease-news-or-scientific-misinformation-on-cwd/
2/16/24 @ 2:29 PM
Turkeyslayer2
User since 8/28/11
Oh by the way it has happened where state agencies have lied about the spread of CWD to gain $$ resources

https://tennesseelookout.com/2023/09/07/former-tennessee-wildlife-and-resources-agency-biologist-agency-manipulated-data-on-deer-disease/

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