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Fish Limits with a guide

5/22/22 @ 9:50 PM
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Big Lake Hoosier
Big Lake Hoosier
USER SINCE 9/2/20

Looking at all the fishing reports has me researching and unable to find the answer.   When fishing with a guide, do customers get to keep the guide‘s limit as well?  As if the guide may donate their portion of the total boat possession to the customer?

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6/4/22 @ 8:42 AM
Zmaniac
Zmaniac
USER SINCE 2/8/06

I’ve done the same thing nihsif. They responded via email to my question within 24 hours. I was pretty impressed because it was just a clarification on a regulation.

6/4/22 @ 7:58 AM
nihsif
nihsif
MEMBER SINCE 6/15/01

fin bender, this will get you to a number of ways to contact DNR for answers... I usually go to the Website Feedback and Questions, but will contact a local warden if I have a question about a specific body of water

https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/contact

6/3/22 @ 4:36 PM
eyesman
eyesman
USER SINCE 1/7/02

Fin Bender, the DNR statutes you quoted may apply to the topic of gifted fish. It still could be a gray area about the gifting though depending on if the DNR/warden considers gifted fish as “reduced to possession”. It is something that does need more clarification how the DNR/warden views that. Once off the water and a person takes possession of gifted fish the only regulation that may apply would be that of a possession limit versus that of a daily bag limit. It may be tough to even get clarification of this from the DNR or a warden. If enough interest in the gifting issue becomes apparent to the DNR they may then edit the regulations to give more clarity. To further muddy the gifting waters if a person catches some fish, cleans them and then gifts them to another does the person receiving them need a valid fishing license to posses them, if no license is needed because the recipient did not “reduce to possession” the gifted fish that same logic could apply to the gifted fish topic that this thread is about. 

6/3/22 @ 3:25 PM
ayeFeesh
USER SINCE 5/17/11

Interesting find. Looks pretty cut and dried already. 

6/3/22 @ 1:30 PM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
USER SINCE 9/16/11

ayeFeesh said "This could be resolved with an easy clarification to the laws. You cannot take possesion of more than a daily limit of fish in one day. Seems to fix all the concerns I see brought up."

I've been thinking about this. It's so simple and straightforward. So much so that I went and looked at the DNR Administrative Code (DNR laws). And wouldn't you know it, this seems to be right in the law and addressed clearly. Here how the DNR defines daily bag limit in the law:

NR 20.03 Definitions. In this chapter: (8) “Daily bag limit" means the maximum number of fish that may be reduced to a person's possession from a specified waterbody or portion of a waterbody in one day.

So, this being true, If I catch my limit I've reduced to my possession the maximum number of fish in a day. IF I then accept a gift of another limit on the same day I'll reduce to my possession twice the daily bag limit which is illegal according to NR 20.03 (8).

Perhaps the assumption that it's allowable to accept a gift of fish on the same day a limit is caught is completely wrong to begin with.

Does anyone know how to go about getting the DNR to clarify this?


6/1/22 @ 5:48 AM
Leechster
Leechster
USER SINCE 1/22/21

ayefeesh you might be on to something! Lol

5/31/22 @ 4:06 PM
ayeFeesh
USER SINCE 5/17/11

This could be resolved with an easy clarification to the laws. You cannot take possesion of more than a daily limit of fish in one day.

Seems to fix all the concerns I see brought up.

5/31/22 @ 2:56 PM
amaranthlost
USER SINCE 5/31/10

Creel surveys would definitely help with management of the resource.  It's a good first step in understanding the impact and then an informed decision can be made regarding any potential change to regulations.

5/31/22 @ 2:34 PM
Hunter&Hound
USER SINCE 7/24/01

Yesterday, I kept 6 crappies and 1 walleye.

I was thinking about having my girlfriend over for fish fry, but this thread has me thinking this is a bad idea.  Maybe it's OK if I make sure I eat the walleye?

5/31/22 @ 12:11 PM
nihsif
nihsif
MEMBER SINCE 6/15/01

I think this whole thing is overstated... period

the one comment I personally thought had merit was Fishhound's idea of making guides fill out catch sheets like they do as a charter on Lake Michigan... I think that would be useful information for the DNR's programs

 

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