Wisconsin NRB & DNR, Not Political, TRUST ME!!!!!!

https://www.nbc26.com/news/state/dnr-wont-participate-in-meeting-amidst-appointee-fight

Thanks for the idea Madforlabs. At your suggestion I looked at the WCC environmental committee a bit further. (This is the committee that the NRB wants the DNR to work with. The same one that wants to ban lead fishing tackle and ammunition and wants to eliminate fossil fuels.) It turns out that the current Vice-chair (and recent co-chair) is in a 1.5 year long court battle over a large quantity of illegal substances (drugs, intent to distribute).  Nice partnership.

Dylan Jennings, public information director with the Great Lakes Indian Fish and Wildlife Commission, said the wolf or Ma'iingan is a keystone species or relative for the commission's member tribes and represents an iconic emblem of their clan systems or forms of government.
"They're just concerned that these efforts to rush into a wolf hunt in the state goes counter to the procedural components outlined in the current and existing process that the state is supposed to follow," said Jennings. "Any changes or veering away from this process would deny our member tribes the proper consultation process."
Jennings also highlighted biological concerns with hunting wolves in the middle of their breeding season. He said hunting wolves doesn't make sense to tribes, which are subsistence-based communities, if the animals are not being utilized for their hide or food."

I urge all of you to do some googling of the Nelson Institute. 

A couple of paragraphs from one of the articles I read.

Then there are tactics like hunting predators which, research suggests, can actually reinforce predatory behavior. “If you kill a wolf pack in your area that’s been living there peacefully, instead of training these animals to not kill your livestock, you’re making space for new animals to come in who might kill your livestock,” Louchouarn says. Plus, if the range rider is focused on chasing down a predator, they leave the livestock exposed to other predators. “We want our riders focusing on handling domestic animals instead of the stealthy wild predators,” she adds.
Louchouarn conducted her study on a large cattle ranch outside of Alberta, Canada, in the foothills of Banff National Park. Photo courtesy of Naomi LouchouarnSo rather than keeping cattle in fences or hunting and killing predators, this method asks the range riders to keep their focus on the wellness of the herd. Beyond keeping the herd together, why is managing stress so important? “Cows are so sensitive to stress,” Louchouarn explains. “When they’re stressed, they could get pneumonia or other diseases and die.” They also start their lives stressed, getting weaned from their mothers almost immediately. “A lot of calves die. We’re talking huge mortality rates, like 20 percent.” Although a higher-stress mitigation tactic might get rid of the predator, the stress of those methods is likely to cause cattle deaths anyway.

Trouter, myself and others are still waiting for you to post the documents, and/or links you referenced in your earlier posts on the CWD thread.

I also watched the NRB meeting.  To automatically assume otherwise is, well, lots of things.  Please make your point without putting others down.

Horicon is mostly Federally owned.  Garganey are a European,  African, eastern Asian duck.  Migratory waterfowl and birds very rarely but occasionally wind up in the wrong continent or hemisphere.  Claiming that a once in a lifetime, anomalistic sighting makes a place extra special is not an ecologically sound management principle, philosophy, or objective.

I love Crex Meadows also!  It is a great place and habitat for many types of wildlife.  In the future, I hope it only changes for the better as wetland and wildlife habitat.

Dylan's the only one who's given those wacho's from Grantsburg any ligitamancy. They want to drain Crex Meadows, a premier wetland and juel of wetland reclaimatation. Previous NRB boards gave these wacho's no mind. Now Dylan wants to go out and "access" the situation. See if he wants to drain the wetland. BTW it's THE largest state owned wetland, bigger thean Horicon. The first place ever in Wisconsin to record a sighting of a Gargany (only one other time since). So ya, that UW education might bring about some changes, not so sure there gonna be good though.

Dylan Jennings, a person I have known for several years, is a perfect fit for the NRB.   It may be he is the first person connected with Nelson Institute to be on the NRB.   That background  will influence decisions he makes as a board member.   Measuring the Nelson Institute influence will not be easy.

Dylan Jennings is young.   The youngest board member I have ever interacted with.   Youth on the board is a welcome perspective.  

Dylan Jennings has experience in government leadership.   Sitting on a tribal council is like being a county board member.   That experience in government will serve him well on the board.

Dylan is a thinker.   He is even tempered.   He does not make a habit of putting his foot in his mouth.  

I do not know the other new board member, Jim Vandenbrook.  

I attended the last board meeting.   No drama.   Fully functional.  No crazy ideas.  Just like a board should be.

Oh my God, over reacting much. Get a grip. The terms and labels being tossed around here over a very small amount of info is comical.  Anyone suggesting grand conspiracy back room politics this early needs to ditch the tinfoil.  Some need to be reminded that several former NRB members had the corner on that market. Good riddance. 

I did, in fact, watch the meeting. I believe these comments are a typical overreaction to what was discussed which constituted about 1 minute of a 3-1/2 hour meeting. Yes, the Conservation Congress ( not NRB, not DNR) will look at delving into environmental issues which are beyond the normal realm of hunting, fishing and trapping. Well and good, it's CONSERVATION.  If you look more closely at the make up of the CC, you couldn't find a less radical group. Plus they are purely an advisory body to the DNR and according to many on another thread,  the DNR never listens to the CC anyway.
Bottom line...much ado about nothing. 

Terrible appointees. Hopefully the senate will do their job and say “no” to these radicals. But they won’t? Perhaps they’re waiting for comments from their constituents to tell them to do their job. If you haven’t, don’t fret about it….or do fret?

Fin,
They got what they chose extreme radical,  off the deep end, virtue signaling, saving the world aggenda. Congress is just a puppet and and extension of the clueless dnr. Everyone trade in your gas guzzling trucks and boats for electric cause electricity comes out of the wall not from fossil fuels. And electricity is free and everyone can afford these vehicles that if they are lucky can tow a radio flyer wagon. ? Next they will try to eliminate hunting and fishing because they don't like it. These people are beyong clueless and not rational or logical.  Just followers and sheep for their team's game plan

What'd you all think about the last meeting? (Don't fret, I know you didn't watch).

The chair of the NRB asked the DNR secretary to direct the DNR to work with the Conservation Congress to promote environmental issues. He asked for a meeting and cooperation on these issues with the CC environmental committee. He specifically asked for the DNR to meet with that committee's chair. No biggie right? Not so fast.

The Conversation Congress Environmental committee just passed/advanced an item calling for the DNR to adopt a position of "elimination of fossil fuel infrastructure in the State of Wisconsin." This is what the NRB chair is asking for. WOW. 

The DNR's going to be doing this stuff now? I can't think of a more decisive agenda than that. 

And if this appointee is a huge mistake (and any of the others), our elected senators have a job to approve or disapprove them.  If you feel it is a huge mistake, naturally you’d reach out to your senator to remind them to do their job.
My gut feeling is if the senators did their job to review these appointees, all appointees would be approved.

Better service to each other and clearer communicating could result if folks did their research and background information gathering BEFORE typing out opinion laden "what if" messages. This article was published back on May 5, 2023 and I'm sure there's more information to be found out there:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2023/05/05/tony-evers-appoints-new-members-to-wisconsin-natural-resources-board/70188190007/

I believe I took FB's message the way it was intended......as a slight to tribal members and tribes. At best, it was a poorly chosen tongue-in-cheek statement.  At worst it was racist and passive aggressive.

If we really want things to get better and all work together better, we need to turn the page and refrain from innuendos and name calling.  But I am not so naive to understand that some folks just like to stir the pot and don't want things to get better so they can hold on to their prejudices and grudges.

"Questioning an appointment based upon race alone is by definition racist." 

I doubt he is making the judgement based on racism.  That is the first thing certain people throw out there when they disagree with someone.  Technically a tribe has no boundary based on bloodlines/race and can change their membership criteria at any time. 

I withhold judgement until I find out to which tribe this person belongs.  To me it potentially has the outcome of this person voting as someone from a political party I don't agree with, or for what they are....another nation with objectives different than the majority of those that use the outdoors.  There is one tribe/government in particular that I fear this person will belong to.  They have been in the news for a myriad of reasons lately, and I cannot support someone from this particular tribe if they are introduced to represent the tribe interests.  If this person is introduced as someone to support the tribes interests as a whole and not introduced solely to fulfill the purpose of the NRB...then it is obvious this person has been appointed purely by politics and decisions will be driven not by the majority, but by a single tribe.  Time will tell.