Wisconsin NRB & DNR, Not Political, TRUST ME!!!!!!

robertwhite...it is interesting.  The GLGP Water Project is about way more than water science. Public relations, politics, government relations, NR Admin Code/statutes, research, and so many other angles.  Those who make comments, a lot of times don't understand the details...it's just what happens when we get behind a keyboard.

 This is a decades old problem that needs a long-term solution.  My neighbors have struggled for many years, just like my family did.  The residents never banded together in the past, now we have.  While having a WDNR is extremely important, it's even more important that all of our governmental agencies follow the laws we are expected to follow. The WDNR has recognized that they must respect our property rights and still hold the position that water doesn't move through the coarse sand to a lower elevation...even the fishbender knows sand doesn't hold water.

 Solving the issue long-term will require the flowages having a "maximum elevation" of water. It'll also require the WDNR to follow the "WDNR 2016  GLGP Properties Master Plan".  The WDNR is way outside of it's own master plan and didn't follow the rules laid out in NR Chapter 44 in having that master plan approved by the NRB.  Once an actual max elevation is set, then the WDNR may need to consider dredging flowages that have filled in with a lot of sediment over the years to have the depth of water that is desired.   The Crex right now is as low as I've ever seen it...there is no flooding of private property right now and water quality is greatly improved.  The WDNR drained most of Crex this summer... even flowages that were not a concern to us were drained.

For me it's more about people being able to own property and care for that property while achieving the American Dream without being harassed, hassled, and hindered by the very government that we faithfully pay our property taxes to.   I'm happy to make a presentation for any group. Name the time and pace and I'll do my best to match up.   I don't hide behind keyboards.  I'll be running for our county board this spring and will probably go into politics when I retire because these sorts of things should never happen to hard working normal everyday citizens.  I've interviewed so many older folks who told me that the WDNR has a "generational plan" to force everyone out, kind of thought they were nuts early on...but nope, they were right. I'll be testifying at the September NRB meeting, be sure to tune in.

By the way, the Milwaukee Journal  Sentinel drove up and spent over 4 hours with Kerri & I.  They are working on a story.  Right now, I think only two of the NRB members have been confirmed, nor has the Secretary. How this issue is handled will have an impact.  There is talk of a possible Senate Committee hearing on this issue.  If that comes to fruition, I'll jump back on here and update everyone.  We are only supposed to get 3 or 5 minutes at NRB meetings...the Senate will allow a whole lot more time.

Duke
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NRB appointees questioned by Senate Committee

Finally.  Now maybe we'll hear a "yay" or 'Nay" to these appointees.

And....not to distract from the recent Crex Meadows conversation on this thread.  Carry on with that...it is an interesting debate.

Link to the Town of West Marshland representatives and officials. Duke testified to the NRB that he represented the Township as "Water Commissioner" or something to that effect. However he's not listed in any capacity on this web-site.  Anyway. Let the Town of West Marshland know if you're sick of them wasting your tax dollars.

https://www.burnettcountywi.gov/503/Town-of-West-Marshland

The issue is done. The state of Wisconsin has invested a lot of time and money, frankly to much of both, into the lunatic pseudo science of one man.  He brought property in a marsh that has been a nearly 20 decade drought, now that mother nature has resumed to near normal he's not happy. I will not engage any direct comments with his posts.
It's time to talk money and who's going to pay for all these experts and time invested. If the town of West Marshland what's to continue to support this insanity let them foot the bill. I'll look into contact info for the Township representatives so anyone interested can contact them. Will follow up.

Sorry... I grew up in the area and have lived in our current home for almost 30 years.  Many residents with issues go back to the homestead years.

Zoomie/Duke, how long have you lived there?  I asked you earlier and you must not have seen the question?

https://www.apg-wi.com/spooner_advocate/news/regional/dnr-shares-hydrological-evaluation-of-water-levels-near-crex-meadows-wildlife-area/article_c704944a-4e62-11ee-9a5b-a7371e09e4ec.html

Like I stated earlier, read the reports.  Everybody knows something until they read the facts. I'd be happy to meet with anyone in order to lay documents from the USGS, WDNR, NWS, and the independent expert for you to decide. I added another snip...studies were performed in 2019 & 2020. Explain how the water table in coarse sand drops in the study area while receiving rain. In the second snip...explain how the USGS test well in Webster, Wi (which is in the same aquifer) shows basically no change in 2019 and actually rises while the water table drops in all test wells in the study area. Be sure to note the scale of the graphs.

Yep. Buyer Beware. 

Anyone who wants to hear more about this can watch here and skip to 54:30 - 1:38:00. It's  a link to the NRB meeting where you can see this specific issue addressed at length:
https://www.youtube.com/live/YenaE-Bbz4Q?si=p0s4Z0MFZhSNsGID

Professional hydrologists from the state and federal level have analyzed Duke's theories and have totally debunked them. An independent hydrologist was hired to do another analysis and also debunked his ideas. The experts are too professional to call the dude bat-s**t crazy, but it appears that's the case. Just sad at this point. Waste of taxpayer money on all this bull-shart. I say make Duke and the Town of West Marshland pay it back. Biggest embarrassment to the Grantsburg area since Alquist's illegal requirement that creationism be taught in the public school.

Duke, how long have you LIVED there? Buyer beware!

Gillespie...would you like a copy of the 2016 Crex Water Quality Assessment that was conducted by the WDNR's Water Program? The study was conducted over 2-3 years and was very thorough. Would you also like to see the letter written by the author of that report that specifically states that our drinking water quality is severely impacted due to the WDNR artificially elevating the water?  Here's a snip of just one paragraph from the WDNR Team that conducted the study.  You are right...Buyer Beware.  Look at the facts.  Don't buy what the residents say, but also don't buy what the WDNR says...please be willing to look at the information available before taking a position.

Residents favor restoring and maintaining the Crex which is what the WDNR Master Plan states as a wetland objective.  The WDNR has already identified that artificially elevating the water levels in flowages(which goes beyond restoring and maintaining) causes the groundwater flooding and water quality issues that residents are dealing with.  The problem is not the depth of water in the flowages...it is the elevation of the water. The WDNR should consider dredging which would allow for the water depth they wish...without causing the water table to be raised which causes groundwater flooding and quality issues.

I will be making an appearance during the September NRB Meeting, tune in.

Duke

I call BS!  Buyer beware....always.

Fin Bender...have you read the 2016 Crex Water Quality Assessment that was conducted by the WDNR's Water Program? www.glgp-plan.com

I am a fisherman...if you were concerned about fish you'd read the report.  The water management of Crex lead to the elimination of the trout population in Hay and Whiskey Creek downstream from Crex. Sorry to be the person to break it to you.  When you are ready for a tour of Crex or ready to sit down face to face to help with a solution that everyone can live with, let me know.  No worries on your insults, I'll forgive you!

Zoomie, hogwash pseudo science crap you come up with. You can candy-coat it all you want and BS to the days end. You "love" Crex because it's across the street from your house and you don't want neighbors there. No sound science from experts has determined that the water in your yard is a result of Crex's practices. Your claim that you don't want Crex drained is a laughable flat out lie. Imagine the narcissism of one dude with the desire to destroy an entire ecosystem because he and his neighbors have wet diches, that desire so desperate he's been on a multi-year crusade to recruit enough disciples to put a cult-like plan in place. Your claim of iron bacteria being a result of Crex is freakin' nuts. It's EVERYWHERE in the sand county of Glacial Lake Grantsburg!     Finally....go away...this site is for fishermen...those with sanity. 

GLGP-Crex Water Issue

If you have questions regarding Crex Water issue that has been mentioned on this site, ask questions rather than slam the affected residents. The residents love the Crex... and understand the issue.  This could be a place you can ask questions.  The GLGP Water Project is about solving issues, not creating issues.  Fin Bender says that us "wachos" want to drain the Crex...not true. Just want the use of our property back and cleanest drinking water possible.  There aren't any wachos involved, just hard working folks that request the WDNR to be good neighbors.

Duke

Thanks for the idea Madforlabs. At your suggestion I looked at the WCC environmental committee a bit further. (This is the committee that the NRB wants the DNR to work with. The same one that wants to ban lead fishing tackle and ammunition and wants to eliminate fossil fuels.) It turns out that the current Vice-chair (and recent co-chair) is in a 1.5 year long court battle over a large quantity of illegal substances (drugs, intent to distribute).  Nice partnership.