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Wisconsin NRB & DNR, Not Political, TRUST ME!!!!!!

9/10/21 @ 9:07 AM
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10/1/23 @ 10:29 PM
LittleLuck
User since 2/16/17
Not a lot of people impressed by Sandra Naas or Dylan Jennings. Trouter we are still waiting for the data from several other forums you said you would provide. Maybe you are hoping people forget.
10/1/23 @ 9:16 PM
OneFineDay
User since 7/22/12
Based on the recent post & without doing any research on why these appointees were rejected, I suspect it had something to do with the wolf hunt.  Correct?
10/1/23 @ 8:24 PM
OneFineDay
User since 7/22/12
Trouter, wondering if or when your gonna post the link to the study which reported18% positive CWD test in the deer herd south of HWY 82. Still waiting, it’s been months now. 
10/1/23 @ 4:25 PM
trouter
trouter
User since 7/3/01
The Sporting Heritage Committee voted down 4 NRB appointments.   Sharon Adams, Dylan Jennings, Sandra Dee Naas and Jim VandenBrook were all shot down by the politicians.

Those voted down have a better understanding than those voting.

More qualified candidates cannot be found.   I am beyond furious.   

Petty partisan politics is toxic to a healthy democracy.

9/28/23 @ 10:04 AM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
Hmmmmm. Now who should I trust and believe?  Independent consultants who studied this issue in depth and wrote a report for the world to read and see?  Or a biased adjacent landowner without any formal training on the issue with an axe to grind?
9/25/23 @ 4:41 PM
zoomie
User since 8/17/23
robertwhite...it is interesting.  The GLGP Water Project is about way more than water science. Public relations, politics, government relations, NR Admin Code/statutes, research, and so many other angles.  Those who make comments, a lot of times don't understand the details...it's just what happens when we get behind a keyboard.

 This is a decades old problem that needs a long-term solution.  My neighbors have struggled for many years, just like my family did.  The residents never banded together in the past, now we have.  While having a WDNR is extremely important, it's even more important that all of our governmental agencies follow the laws we are expected to follow. The WDNR has recognized that they must respect our property rights and still hold the position that water doesn't move through the coarse sand to a lower elevation...even the fishbender knows sand doesn't hold water.

 Solving the issue long-term will require the flowages having a "maximum elevation" of water. It'll also require the WDNR to follow the "WDNR 2016  GLGP Properties Master Plan".  The WDNR is way outside of it's own master plan and didn't follow the rules laid out in NR Chapter 44 in having that master plan approved by the NRB.  Once an actual max elevation is set, then the WDNR may need to consider dredging flowages that have filled in with a lot of sediment over the years to have the depth of water that is desired.   The Crex right now is as low as I've ever seen it...there is no flooding of private property right now and water quality is greatly improved.  The WDNR drained most of Crex this summer... even flowages that were not a concern to us were drained.

For me it's more about people being able to own property and care for that property while achieving the American Dream without being harassed, hassled, and hindered by the very government that we faithfully pay our property taxes to.   I'm happy to make a presentation for any group. Name the time and pace and I'll do my best to match up.   I don't hide behind keyboards.  I'll be running for our county board this spring and will probably go into politics when I retire because these sorts of things should never happen to hard working normal everyday citizens.  I've interviewed so many older folks who told me that the WDNR has a "generational plan" to force everyone out, kind of thought they were nuts early on...but nope, they were right. I'll be testifying at the September NRB meeting, be sure to tune in.

By the way, the Milwaukee Journal  Sentinel drove up and spent over 4 hours with Kerri & I.  They are working on a story.  Right now, I think only two of the NRB members have been confirmed, nor has the Secretary. How this issue is handled will have an impact.  There is talk of a possible Senate Committee hearing on this issue.  If that comes to fruition, I'll jump back on here and update everyone.  We are only supposed to get 3 or 5 minutes at NRB meetings...the Senate will allow a whole lot more time.

Duke
glgp-plan.com
9/22/23 @ 8:13 AM
robertwhite
User since 3/18/08
NRB appointees questioned by Senate Committee

Finally.  Now maybe we'll hear a "yay" or 'Nay" to these appointees.

And....not to distract from the recent Crex Meadows conversation on this thread.  Carry on with that...it is an interesting debate.
9/19/23 @ 3:44 PM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11
Link to the Town of West Marshland representatives and officials. Duke testified to the NRB that he represented the Township as "Water Commissioner" or something to that effect. However he's not listed in any capacity on this web-site.  Anyway. Let the Town of West Marshland know if you're sick of them wasting your tax dollars.

https://www.burnettcountywi.gov/503/Town-of-West-Marshland
9/15/23 @ 9:31 PM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11
The issue is done. The state of Wisconsin has invested a lot of time and money, frankly to much of both, into the lunatic pseudo science of one man.  He brought property in a marsh that has been a nearly 20 decade drought, now that mother nature has resumed to near normal he's not happy. I will not engage any direct comments with his posts.
It's time to talk money and who's going to pay for all these experts and time invested. If the town of West Marshland what's to continue to support this insanity let them foot the bill. I'll look into contact info for the Township representatives so anyone interested can contact them. Will follow up.
9/15/23 @ 5:00 PM
zoomie
User since 8/17/23
Sorry... I grew up in the area and have lived in our current home for almost 30 years.  Many residents with issues go back to the homestead years.
9/15/23 @ 7:22 AM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
Zoomie/Duke, how long have you lived there?  I asked you earlier and you must not have seen the question?

https://www.apg-wi.com/spooner_advocate/news/regional/dnr-shares-hydrological-evaluation-of-water-levels-near-crex-meadows-wildlife-area/article_c704944a-4e62-11ee-9a5b-a7371e09e4ec.html

9/14/23 @ 4:00 PM
zoomie
User since 8/17/23
Like I stated earlier, read the reports.  Everybody knows something until they read the facts. I'd be happy to meet with anyone in order to lay documents from the USGS, WDNR, NWS, and the independent expert for you to decide. I added another snip...studies were performed in 2019 & 2020. Explain how the water table in coarse sand drops in the study area while receiving rain. In the second snip...explain how the USGS test well in Webster, Wi (which is in the same aquifer) shows basically no change in 2019 and actually rises while the water table drops in all test wells in the study area. Be sure to note the scale of the graphs.

Yep. Buyer Beware. 
Wisconsin NRB & DNR,   Not Political, TRUST ME!!!!!! photo by zoomie
Wisconsin NRB & DNR,   Not Political, TRUST ME!!!!!! photo by zoomie
9/13/23 @ 2:34 PM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11
Anyone who wants to hear more about this can watch here and skip to 54:30 - 1:38:00. It's  a link to the NRB meeting where you can see this specific issue addressed at length:
https://www.youtube.com/live/YenaE-Bbz4Q?si=p0s4Z0MFZhSNsGID

Professional hydrologists from the state and federal level have analyzed Duke's theories and have totally debunked them. An independent hydrologist was hired to do another analysis and also debunked his ideas. The experts are too professional to call the dude bat-s**t crazy, but it appears that's the case. Just sad at this point. Waste of taxpayer money on all this bull-shart. I say make Duke and the Town of West Marshland pay it back. Biggest embarrassment to the Grantsburg area since Alquist's illegal requirement that creationism be taught in the public school.

9/13/23 @ 12:15 AM
Gillespie
User since 2/6/19
Duke, how long have you LIVED there? Buyer beware!
9/12/23 @ 11:05 AM
zoomie
User since 8/17/23
Gillespie...would you like a copy of the 2016 Crex Water Quality Assessment that was conducted by the WDNR's Water Program? The study was conducted over 2-3 years and was very thorough. Would you also like to see the letter written by the author of that report that specifically states that our drinking water quality is severely impacted due to the WDNR artificially elevating the water?  Here's a snip of just one paragraph from the WDNR Team that conducted the study.  You are right...Buyer Beware.  Look at the facts.  Don't buy what the residents say, but also don't buy what the WDNR says...please be willing to look at the information available before taking a position.

Residents favor restoring and maintaining the Crex which is what the WDNR Master Plan states as a wetland objective.  The WDNR has already identified that artificially elevating the water levels in flowages(which goes beyond restoring and maintaining) causes the groundwater flooding and water quality issues that residents are dealing with.  The problem is not the depth of water in the flowages...it is the elevation of the water. The WDNR should consider dredging which would allow for the water depth they wish...without causing the water table to be raised which causes groundwater flooding and quality issues.

I will be making an appearance during the September NRB Meeting, tune in.

Duke
Wisconsin NRB & DNR,   Not Political, TRUST ME!!!!!! photo by zoomie
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