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CWD in Wisconsin

11/4/19 @ 3:09 PM
Swamp buck
User since 1/23/09

Well LittleLuck that was quite a rant about a lot of things regarding deer hunting. What all hunters want is for our deer to forever run free in our wild lands nationwide! I think every hunter if he/she is a hunter wants that. The fact is we DON'T KNOW -YET! Scientists in a lot of states and provinces are working trying to understand what we have on our hands and if there is a threat long term to our deer and elk populations and if it can become a problem for the human population. What I want is for people to understand that this disease is no joke. We need to continue to demand the DNR studies the disease and find out all we can

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7/13/24 @ 11:35 AM
fishfillet
User since 1/8/13
Madforlabs,   it's been 2 decades minimum.  They should know that by now.   It was a question for the guy that won't eat the deer.  I'm personally not worried.  I'd eat it.   I don't think the met is affected.
7/13/24 @ 10:48 AM
madforlabs
User since 12/20/12
Answering that question would entail research efforts. You know, the sort of which you claim is a waste of taxpayer dollars.
7/13/24 @ 9:33 AM
fishfillet
User since 1/8/13
Is the meat infected?   Is it in the bones?  Is it only  in the brain?     
7/13/24 @ 8:42 AM
ere
User since 2/22/07
If meat processors dont require proof of a negative cwd test, the state cannot be overly concerned.
7/13/24 @ 6:34 AM
Snake1
Snake1
PRO MEMBER User since 1/22/21
I wont give you any grief for not eating infected meat. Seems they are still studying it. 
nobody really knows if there could be side effects. It’s another tough situation. Hope it’s resolved one way or the other.
7/12/24 @ 3:35 PM
eyesman
eyesman
User since 1/7/02
C-P-R-1, where did you harvest three consecutive CWD infected bucks?
7/12/24 @ 2:44 PM
C-P-R-#1
User since 2/14/08
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but sad to say it's very upsetting when you harvest a mature 150" class buck, skin, cut & wrap the meat with the wife's help, only to get back a positive CWD result........the last 3 bucks have been this way. And the sad part, where I'm in the minority here, is when I take the meat to the "deer dumpster", already wrapped, packed & frozen.  I'm sure I'll catch grief from many, hard choice to make, but to ME it's just not worth the risk of having any chance of my wife and kids ever becoming sick from any possible link to eating CWD positive deer.
Yes, I'm sure there's a good or great chance of already eating CWD positive deer from past harvests during the 80's and 90's, but hey, I never knew that I could have been eating CWD positive deer, until the 2000's.  Now I do.
I just wish "they'd" give the stamp of approval to consume CWD positive deer, then I wouldn't have to worry so much. Imagine the elation that comes with harvesting mature 150" class deer, and then a week later the sadness of getting the email stating "we do not recommend the consumption of CWD positive deer, but hey, here's a free buck harvest tag for next year."  :(              Talking about highs and lows......
Just my take on the whole deal.  
7/12/24 @ 1:16 PM
Johnny Wishbone
User since 8/15/18
CWD is a fictitious conspiracy directly related to climate change.  
7/10/24 @ 7:56 PM
fishfillet
User since 1/8/13
They've  had how many decades now to figure something out.  How much more tax payer money do they need?
7/10/24 @ 3:30 PM
river_chaser
User since 10/3/12
Plenty of valid points on both sides of this issue.  The "naysayers" cant really be labeled as anti intellectual theyre just looking at history and experience where science was and is insufficient to find long term solutions.  Consider how long Dutch Elm disease and Emerald Ash Borer have been killing trees and still are killing trees.  Despite all the science - not much progress with these tree diseases.  Lyme disease anyone?  Good science there but Lymes isnt going away.  It can be managed once you contact Lymes but its not going away.  And no one can forget the king of all disappointments.  Wisconsin DNR was once considered to have the best deer management science in the world.  Dont say that to anyone hunting north of Hwy 8, you will probably get punched in the mouth. 
7/10/24 @ 11:25 AM
Swamp buck
User since 1/23/09
Totally agree CM on some of this research that seems like a colossal waste of money and time. Why not spend the dollars on a cure remedy. My frustration is the Gov has some of the dumbest rules. A farmer can plow his CWD land in Illinois and then use that same plow to plow another piece of ground in a different state or land with out CWD. Why isn't that regulated? Why isn't hay or feed from CWD areas regulated when its sold to areas with out CWD. I guess the Gov experts haven't gotten that far yet. 
7/10/24 @ 10:56 AM
cm1234
User since 8/3/12
I will also add that since CWD was first discovered in WI, somewhere around 2002-2003, the actions taken by the WDNR have had little to know positive effect on it. We are at a point where CWD is as widespread as it has ever been in WI (according to the DNR anyway). I'm sure no one will argue that that is the summary of the numbers and reports the DNR is currently putting out. That being said, until actionable information is discovered, a government agency should not have unchecked authority to change season structures and other regulations around deer for CWD purposes. As far as we know, everything DNR has done could have made it worse, it certainly hasn't helped. 

From a research standpoint, any information that is found currently is tainted by the changes the DNR has already made. You can not get accurate results when multiple variables are changed, as has happened in WI with regards to the limitless CWD tags of the early days, the DNR sharpshooters, the extended gun seasons, the baiting bans, etc. Want accurate research results? Then the conditions of the research need to match the conditions that were present when CWD was first discovered here.
7/10/24 @ 10:44 AM
cm1234
User since 8/3/12
CWD contaminated soil research is needed to find out how long the prions remain alive in the soil.   We need a quick and easy test to detect CWD in soil. So say it last for 1, 5, or 10 years in soil. What do we do about it? Short of fencing in all contaminated areas( which i would think would include every piece of dirt a deer has ever spit on, eaten on, or died on), burning every plant to the ground, and setting up buffers around these contamination zones, how would knowing how long it last in soil help to slow or eliminate it?   

Hay grown in CWD contaminated soil absorbs the prions via the roots into the plant.   How many other plants absorb CWD in the same way ?  We do not know. OK, so say we find out, what do we do with that information, and how does having that information help to slow it down or eliminate it?

What is the relationship between CWD and global warming ? We don't know, and likely never will but I'll play along. Either "global warming" affect CWD or it doesn't right? So say it does, what do we do about it? How would having that information help to reduce or eliminate CWD? CWD has only been detectable for ~60 years, hardly a timeframe in which the effects of a warming or cooling of a billions of years old planet can be accurately determined.

The list of ways CWD has been proven to spread has increased over time.  Knowing how it spreads is valuable information. Valuable information for understanding it, maybe. Is any of this information actionable though? Even the best case scenario, if a preventative, or a cure were found, these are wild animals. Their lives consist of 2 thing, make more deer, and survive. There are deer that even in urban areas, live their entire lives without ever being seen by a human. How would a cure be administered to a species that's top priority is avoiding contact with humans?   

Research on these topics and others is ongoing, but it takes time.  During that time the disease spreads. I do find it interesting how the research portion of the annual CWD budget continues to decline year over year, while in the past year, the PR portion of the budget has nearly doubled. 
7/10/24 @ 8:18 AM
Fin Bender
Fin Bender
User since 9/16/11
The fact that Trouter thinks that hay is a specific type of plant is just about enough for me.
7/10/24 @ 7:51 AM
lakeshiner
lakeshiner
User since 7/20/09
Sounds like you just explained why it isn't being stopped trouter.  I think you helped that position more than your own.

Are we going to dig up all the contaminated soil?  Are we going to tell farmers they can't plant their fields?  Will we eradicate all deer off the landscape for the entire time it takes for a prion to break down?  Will we stop deer from traveling/rutting and all the deer to deer behaviors that come with that?  Will we stop them from bedding in the same areas year after year?   Should be a pretty obvious nope....

With cancer, people go to the doctor or hospitals for treatment.  Do you plan on bringing wild deer into a Vet?  Apples to oranges comparison.

Remember VHS, do you really think minnow rules stopped it?  That was a knee jerk 'look we did something' reaction, just like they do for CWD.  Neither stop it but it makes some people feel good. 

I'm fine with it being studied, don't get me wrong.  But I'm also not expecting some magical fix to come of it.  Even if after all these years they figure it out, just the application of it would be daunting in a wild herd.
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