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Wisconsin Fishing Discussion

SPEARING MINOQUA CHAIN

4/11/24 @ 10:54 AM
INITIAL POST
Noknot
User since 12/23/21

I see the tribes have declared they are going to spear the Minoqua chain  guess 10 years of closure to rebuild the population and banning everyone else from keeping any was just a waste. 

    

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TODAY @ 10:59 AM
ayeFeesh
User since 5/17/11
I personally don't care how the walleyes are legally harvested...speared, net, setline, rod and reel. Or when, spring or fall. Or with what technology. Dead fish is a dead fish.

I'm more concerned with the overall total harvest number. Clearly that number needs to be reduced by both tribal and non-tribal. 
TODAY @ 10:38 AM
Fish Hound
User since 1/29/02
The six Chippewa tribes of Wisconsin are legally able to harvest walleyes using a variety of high-efficiency methods, but spring spearing is the most frequently used method. In spring, each tribe declares how many walleyes and muskellunge they intend to harvest from each lake. Harvest begins shortly after ice-out, with nightly fishing permits issued to individual tribal spearers.

They self impose a harvest limit, not nearly the same thing. This is a copy and paste directly from the WDNR website.
TODAY @ 10:06 AM
Graceonpoint
User since 10/24/17
The only double standard is they are allowed to spear and we are not, but they quotas/harvest caps.  The problem is technology has made it easier for them to reach the quotas and technology has allowed fishermen to locate and catch fish even when populations are low.   Combined that leads to over harvesting. 
TODAY @ 8:36 AM
Fish Hound
User since 1/29/02
Carpio, therein lies the problem, they aren't spearing like they did 100+ years ago, anymore than we are fishing like we did 100+ years ago.  Both cultures have taken advantage of modern technology whether its 1,000,000 candle power spotlights or Garmin Panoptix.  Technology has made us much better at harvesting fish, to the point that we are overharvesting many of the fisheries.

In theory I would say this is correct, however why the double standard? 

- All but the Native cultures have mechanisms adjusted to fit the current harvest capabilities.

- All cultures, other than Native, have bag limits and seasons to control the harvest. Natives get to use all the technology without any control of harvest caps and do it during the Walleyes most vulnerable time, the spring spawn.

I would propose this then...... let them hop in their canoes, with their fiery torches, and spear as many Walleye as they can for one season. That would then be the future season quota. Following years they can use all the technology they want to spear fish up until that quota is reached to make it faster and more efficient. If at any time they think the quota needs to be changed, do a season as their ancestors had again and the quota will be adjusted to that amount for future seasons.
5/7/24 @ 10:42 PM
CCLUND
User since 5/29/11
Draws,
There are violators in the NA tribes AND non native outdoors people(I refuse to call them sportman).  The difference is non natives get their name published in the court news and natives you never hear of a punishment,  fine, or harvest privileges revoked.
5/7/24 @ 8:29 PM
Drawsbaby
User since 5/7/03
I thought it was illegal to be on the water at nite without having running lites on. I only seen one boat with them on out of 4 nites. 
5/7/24 @ 6:09 PM
samfox
User since 3/17/09
Trouter, awful protective of native rights, did you not get to spear or is your casino check late
5/7/24 @ 5:23 PM
JC-Wisconsin
User since 4/1/05
Not all “US citizens” have casinos.

5/7/24 @ 5:05 PM
trouter
trouter
User since 7/3/01
There is no rational relationship between casinos and treaty rights.   

Not all tribes have treaty rights.



5/7/24 @ 12:06 PM
brews4995
brews4995
User since 4/2/10
Again anyone who steps 1 foot inside any of their casinos have no right to complain.  
5/7/24 @ 11:33 AM
Graceonpoint
User since 10/24/17
Carpio, therein lies the problem, they aren't spearing like they did 100+ years ago, anymore than we are fishing like we did 100+ years ago.  Both cultures have taken advantage of modern technology whether its 1,000,000 candle power spotlights or Garmin Panoptix.  Technology has made us much better at harvesting fish, to the point that we are overharvesting many of the fisheries.   
5/7/24 @ 9:17 AM
Carpio
Carpio
PRO MEMBER User since 11/5/17
It’s their heritage but I wasn’t aware that they had spotlights and outboard motors in the 1700s.
5/7/24 @ 8:36 AM
lakeshiner
lakeshiner
User since 7/20/09
So much drama from 1 tribe, pretty sure they do it for sport and to rile you guys up.  They spear half the fish every year, apparently the other 5 tribes don't need the same level of sustenance.  They've always been good at putting on a show for the media.  Its just northwoods politics.
5/7/24 @ 3:34 AM
trouter
trouter
User since 7/3/01
Different cultures take different approaches to natural resource management.   

5/6/24 @ 4:45 PM
kona77
User since 6/20/13
Johnson said he has no problem with the DNR allowing state anglers to fish for walleye there as long as anglers follow the bag limit.

How noble of the Tribal President to let us "lowly" sport fisherman share in the resource. All I can say is "WOW" to his last comments.  
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