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Angler Preferences

10/18/19 @ 8:53 AM
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heussb
User since 1/27/10

Greetings fellow anglers.  I thought I would start a discussion on angler preferences.  

A fairly frequent theme I often observe is oppositional viewpoints regarding high minimum length limits for gamefish.  They are often times mistakenly viewed as as being prescribed to a lake to solely provide a trophy angling opportunity; when in actuality the high minimum length limit may be applied to provide an action/C&R opportunity.

Balancing angling opportunities with science, social and economic objectives can be a challenge.  What's your preference?  Catch & Release, Harvest or Both?  Why & where?

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10/26/19 @ 8:37 PM
nihsif
nihsif
MEMBER since 6/15/01

40" pike were around in the mid 90's ( and beyond  )

Pike in Geneva 

... so what or how did this tapeworm deal get introduced??


10/26/19 @ 5:42 PM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

I personally prefer harvest opportunities.  An angler I was talking to the other night mentioned how he only fishes when he plans on keeping what he catches.  Different strokes for different folks.

10/26/19 @ 3:29 PM
LittleLuck
User since 2/16/17

So we are stuck with this failed 40 in experiment on Big Muskego until at least 2022? What a load of ..... In 3 or more years the fishery will be in even worse shape. Again I have talked to several biologists in different states about no harvest of northerns on a shallow marsh susceptible to winter and summer kill and they all agreed not a good idea at all. They agree that the fishery will get out of balance at that it is a waste of a resource by trying to protect northerns with no harvest for 15 or more years when they could die in any given year. Doesn't sound like good science at all. Why not make changes to the 40 in size limit now so the fishery can start to get better immediately.  Big Muskego likely can only sustain a certain amount of northerns with its shallow conditions, forage and competition from each other as well as other species.  I know it is a tuff pill to swallow for the DNR and to admit something isn't working, won't work and do something different including allowing harvest.

10/25/19 @ 8:45 PM
machoprogrammer
User since 1/19/07

I do both. Bigger fish that would survive release, I release, except Lake Michigan trout/salmon (since it's put and take anyway) I sometimes keep. But any naturally reproducing fish, whether it's a bluegill or a northern, I release the larger ones so they can breed and pass their genetics on and keep the smaller (but legal sized) ones.


Studies have shown that releasing the big ones is better for the fisheries. Everyone should do that. The smaller ones taste better, anyway

10/22/19 @ 12:27 PM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

I do not work that area.  My understanding is the pike found in Geneva have a high incedence of a tapeworm that impedes growth.  Muskies were introduced to Geneva because it had excellent habitat and growth potential given the two-story lake classification with excellent forage.  So far, the muskies are indeed performing well with fish already in the high 40's.

10/20/19 @ 5:05 PM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

10/20/19 @ 3:53 PM
nihsif
nihsif
MEMBER since 6/15/01

I'd like to hear your justification for planting musky in lake Geneva... as mentioned,  a place where trophy sized pike were fairly common... to me, it was a give to the musky organizations,  of which I was a member of one at a point in time...

less an improvement to the fishery,  but more giving in to a musky lobby 

I'm willing to listen to an actual natural resources reason,  and not a financial reason,  ie, financial support from musky organizations 

10/20/19 @ 1:21 PM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

There are some new harvest opportunities in 2020 with the addition of the northern pike slot on a few lakes in WI, 25-35" protected, 2 bag, 1 over.  I hear you loud and clear littleluck, you want harvest & improved size structure.  We will provide additional  stakeholder input opportunities for BM soon.  We will look into alternatives including 26x2, slot & 40x1.  Also looking at Lac LaBelle walleye, and 50" min for muskies countywide.  Just keep in mind this is only a discuusion at this point.  Next spring hearings for WCC is 2021 for effect in 2022.  Thanks for the feedback, good discussion.

10/19/19 @ 9:07 PM
LittleLuck
User since 2/16/17

Amazing how the dnr always makes things more complicated than they need be and try to lose the average Joe with all there mumbo jumbo and pr garbage. The dnr wonders why they are losing fishermen and hunters because they try to over regulate everything to the point people quit. Just catering to catch and release people is a load of BS. Why don't we just have catch and release the whole state. Then we won't need licenses or people to manage fisheries it is almost to that point anyways. It is a shame that people are leaving Wisconsin to fish and hunt.  But a lot of people are fed up. That's why I hunt fish other states. Oh by the way amazing how the failed experiment on BIg Muskego is brushed under the rug with pr about fisheries management.  Sounds to me like it came out. of one of my old text books

10/19/19 @ 4:51 PM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

A variety of opportunities to serve a diversity of Anglers.  In a perfect world, high abundance of a given species would always align with harvest regulations. Where the waters get muddy (pun intended) is when population levels are abnormally volatile due to poor habitat, human disturbances, invasive species, above average fishing pressure or all of the above.  These situations are often times a great fit for more restrictive regulations that ensure enough individuals survive to maintain a self sustaining, naturally reproducing population.  Natural mortality on degaded habitat can be above average.  Adding high exploitation to high natural mortality can result in the continued decline of a population.   This is where I believe more conservative regulations fit well.  Taking harvest off the table allows a population to rely mainly on mother nature to decide, instead of adding angler harvest on top.  That's when regs are hard to understand.  Gotta go, deer coming.

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