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10/18/19 @ 8:53 AM
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heussb
User since 1/27/10

Greetings fellow anglers.  I thought I would start a discussion on angler preferences.  

A fairly frequent theme I often observe is oppositional viewpoints regarding high minimum length limits for gamefish.  They are often times mistakenly viewed as as being prescribed to a lake to solely provide a trophy angling opportunity; when in actuality the high minimum length limit may be applied to provide an action/C&R opportunity.

Balancing angling opportunities with science, social and economic objectives can be a challenge.  What's your preference?  Catch & Release, Harvest or Both?  Why & where?

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11/8/19 @ 2:18 PM
machoprogrammer
User since 1/19/07

According to studies, the way to have a healthier panfish population is with smaller bag limits and keeping the smaller ones while releasing the larger (>8.5") fish, particularly the males.

11/7/19 @ 6:44 PM
nihsif
nihsif
MEMBER since 6/15/01

saw that awhile ago when I was researching why the northern pike population went from a sustainable, healthy population with a potential for trophy class fish, to a lake full of undersized, skinny, infected northern pike in the matter of lets say 15 years or less... either the tapeworm was there already, but being managed or had minimal affect, by natural means, or something either triggered or introduced the current situation.

appreciate your research, but I've been doing this kind of research ever since the DNR decided that a musky destination was needed

 

11/7/19 @ 3:55 PM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

If you google Geneva Lake 2015 fisheries survey, you'll find a nice report by WDNR staff.  There's a section on the pike that describes the tapeworm in more detail.  The parasite is also found in Cisco.  

10/30/19 @ 2:46 PM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

Not sure how or when that tapeworm was discovered on Geneva.  I can look into it and let you know what I find out.  

Depends on your definition of adult muskies.  We use > 30" as a benchmark for adults.  Our population estimates for Pewaukee in 1998, 2013 and 2018 show the following changes in adult densities;  0.5(1998)0.6(2013) 0.52(2019) per surface acre.  Techniques and confidence intervals associated with those estimates vary, so they are simply estimates for the purpose of this discussion.  We stock from 0.5 to 1 fall fingerlings per acre annually.  Pewaukee is unique due to the high productivity, which results in the ability to provide both action and trophy potential.  

Glad to hear I am not the only one who primarily practices catch & eat.  

10/30/19 @ 7:46 AM
vegas492
vegas492
User since 5/21/03

I don't think harvesting is an issue.  But, Pewaukee has lost 30% of it's adults the past 5 years or so...at least since the last survey was done.  It's still a high density, just not as high.

Every year I see some people with muskies on a stringer.  Accidental catches by folks who don't really know the regs.  The hope would be that this limit, along with signage would help eliminate some of that.

Kind of a no brainer in my book.  Especially given the quality of replica mounts that are out there.

If looking for other regulations, I too would love a better panfish solution.  

10/29/19 @ 9:41 PM
nihsif
nihsif
MEMBER since 6/15/01

No problem with a 50" or no harvest... is musky harvest really an issue?

still wondering about the appearance of these tapeworms in Geneva,  did it coincide with the 2010 first musky stocking? Before that,  trophy pike were available  

10/29/19 @ 8:36 PM
svitreum
svitreum
User since 8/29/06

I fish for fish that I plan on eating most of the time. And they all get eaten. Every single one. I fish bluegills alot from Spring til Fall. I intersperse that with a dozen or so trips out on the big lake for salmon/trout, as well as a dozen or so trips for channel cats. I throw back any cats over 4 lb just because they don't taste as good. I'll fish walleyes a half dozen times a year, and generally only wind up with a dozen or so keepers a year at the most. 

If I go fishing just for fun, it's for bass, pike and the once or twice a year trip for flathead cats. I release all flatheads over 8 lb, and only keep 2-3 a year at the most. The last 2 years I didn't even go after the flatheads due to very high water.

I love fish. I even buy some saltwater fish just to have something different. I grew up eating a lot of fish and have only learned to love it even more!

10/29/19 @ 8:24 PM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

Vegas,  too early to worry about signage, just gathering some preliminary feedback at this point.  If we are able to gain approval from fisheries leadership, statewide musky team, FMPT, NRB and law enforcement, we can run it through 2021 spring hearings for potential implementation in 22.  It's a long & scrutinizing process, but for good reasoning. We have to make sure it would be a good fit given social, economic and biological impacts.  I hope to provide more formal opportunities to weigh in on this issue in the near future.  Anybody have any opposition to a 50" MLL for muskies in Waukesha County?  Thanks for the feedback and discussion.

10/29/19 @ 7:28 AM
vegas492
vegas492
User since 5/21/03

Ben, that is a huge Heck Yeah for that 50 inch musky size limit for Waukesha County Lakes.

Do you at the DNR have any grants available to the clubs, Muskies Inc. or MCW, that would help us purchase signs to put at launches if the motion passes?  I know it is something that Muskies Inc would help with...and I'm pretty sure that MCW would love to coordinate efforts on that project. 

10/29/19 @ 7:19 AM
heussb
User since 1/27/10

Channel catfish and white bass are a couple of my favorite fish to harvest.  White bass are highly cyclical in abundance, so success varies.  Catfish seem to have very consistent recruitment.  My kids actually like deep fried catfish better than others due to the texture.  I prefer to focus harvest efforts on abundant species.  Proper care and preparation can make all the difference.  I've recently been approached by muskellunge enthusiasts on pursuing a 50" county wide MLL.  My initial thoughts are to support this on the basis of high fishing pressure, economic impact and growth potential.  I would like to hear other anglers' views. 

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