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9/12/03 @ 11:53 AM
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150class
USER SINCE 8/24/01
Let us know where youre finding the birds, what were the conditions, what type of terrain.

Lets here some good dog stories as well.

Can we attach pictures in this forum now?

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TODAY @ 1:09 PM
Hunter&Hound
USER SINCE 7/24/01

That's rich, they ground pound them out the window or off an ATV, but hunting them w/ dogs is unsporting.  Sheesh!

My last trip to Canada was 34 years ago and I suspect I will never go back.  I'd rather stay here and have 2 extra days of doing whatever, than make the drive up there.

TODAY @ 12:36 PM
Outdoor Freak!
USER SINCE 9/26/19

I’ve hunted grouse several times in N/W Ontario Canada while on moose hunts.  The majority don’t fly.  They just walk around and look at you at close distance.  They appear to have no fear of humans.  Locals often shoot them with air guns.  Locals also don’t have a favorable view of grouse hunters using dogs.  It’s viewed as unethical, as dogs will easily locate all the birds in the area.  Birds will sometimes fly if you run at them, and you can get a sporting shot.  Not always the case though.  They still often stand there and walk around.  On the plus side,  most years I have seen good numbers of grouse in Canada.  Happy hunting!

9/23/21 @ 12:44 PM
river_chaser
USER SINCE 10/3/12

Ditto what Brdyboy says and be alert in the woods.  My dog is a long ranger and I put a 1 inch bell on the dogs collar making unnatural noise is a good thing to keep the wolves alert for your presnce and avoid a confrontation. No the bell does not attract them. 

9/23/21 @ 11:57 AM
Swamp buck
USER SINCE 1/23/09

Seems like steady grouse numbers out of Canada. Has anyone here hunted them in Canada and what was your experience. Were they sporty (strong flushers)? I've thought of making a trip for them. I've heard that they could be pretty boring and people shoot them off the road with .22 and that's not what I want. Maybe this should be in another forum.

9/23/21 @ 11:41 AM
Birdyboy
Birdyboy
USER SINCE 8/24/07

Jzzzzz. 

I hunt the areas around Pike Lake your buddy does. Usually closer to the Riley lake area west of Musky Jacks in Fifield. The DNR has some reports the last two years of dogs getting tangled up with wolves around there. In 2019, my Weimaraner Lucy came dangerously close to a juvenile just off one of the old logging trails. I’m sure the juvenile was part of a larger pack that frequents that part of the Chequamegon.  Last year I hunted that area with a buddy and his dog. No wolves encountered and no sign. 

If your dogs are well controlled, I wouldn’t worry too much. I hunted that Weimaraner for 12 years and had one close call. If they run big, like my new setter, I would not be comfortable. Last year I put Abby on  the ground for the first time and the damn dog was 200 plus yards out in a matter of seconds. She did that a couple of times and I put her up for the remainder of the week.  Been working all year on keeping her close.  We will see how she does in a few weeks once she gets a whiff of bird scent. If she runs big it’s back to the truck. 

Overall, I don’t worry too much about the wolves but try and keep the dog close.  I’m running her with a Garmin Alpha Mini this year so that will help. 


9/23/21 @ 8:15 AM
Jzzzzz
USER SINCE 1/19/02

soooooo were does a guy and a dog hunt safely up nort then for the partridge??   I did  afair amount in the Fifield Pike Lake Chain area years ago and a buddy still hunts that area often with GWP and hasn't had any wolf issues that I know of, is it just those certain pack areas or is it more widespread?

I am heading north for our anniversary next week and wanted to get my lab daisy out for some grouse, I'm a little spooked now by all this chatter on here, is it similar in the U.P as well?


Thanks for any info, and good civil conversation on here. Steve; its crazy how much you travel up in your area, get some rest bud! hahahah

9/22/21 @ 11:39 PM
Steve White
USER SINCE 3/17/04

If I run all my baits alone. My way. Wife does it different. Minimum 6hrs, and 92 miles.  Thats why we split up. She has been doing it all most of the year.  Since we are not willing to kill our dogs.  Checking for tracks in the January cat season is completely different. W e might put on 150 miles + in the truck. Plus dropping the snowmobile to check many more miles  The WDNR does not have anyone that tracks predators. Like a hound hunter. I begged ole Jane. To come check tracks with me.  Her knees were to bad to ride in a truck. Litterally what she told me. Amongst many other BS things.

Yet, here I am the ruthless dog hunter. That will not hunt my dogs. Because of the wolf problem. Really think about that. Just think about.  BEAR DOGS! Not bird dogs. 

Anyone that does not want to believe. its very simple. Come ride with me after a snow in January.  Glad to show you. Im sure like the WDNR wolf head. Your knees are to bad.  To just ride in a truck.

Bird notes? Nothing for me last 2 days, or the wife. Took a 6 mile hike yesterday, Where the truck could not go. Nothing at all! Wife has not seen one yet. No woodcock either. However one of our hunters. Seen 5 walk into his bait yesterday, 

Mark, Stone lake area has 3 packs working the area. Although 2 were killed  there during the last season. 

I should be seeing dozens of woodcock right now. At least a dozen grouse a day. All predator populations are up. Except for fisher. Oddly the porky numbers are way down as well.

We have a huge problem in the Northwoods.  If you think different.  Come ride with me in January!   Hell, come ride with me now. When we can only see 20% if lucky!

Trust me. You will keep them fat labs at home!!



9/22/21 @ 8:29 PM
waltereye sr.
USER SINCE 6/25/01

Put 20 miles on today, DEEP in Northern Vilas County. Perfect Grouse habitat. I'm talking backcountry roads/paths. Never seen a feather. Wasn't hunting,  just went to find a friend's deer camp. Disappointing for sure.

9/22/21 @ 1:31 PM
Musky Ben
USER SINCE 3/13/02

frenchbrit:

With all due respect, Steve lives 15 miles Minocqua and 15 miles from Eagle River neither are major metroplis', so he's in the big woods. 

I'm not in the woods with Steve, but am darn close, him to east of me and I just moved south of Minocqua.  I am aware with friends in the woods west of Minocqua that the Willow pack by itself was several years ago reported by the WDNR at 26 dogs. And there is a Stone Lake pack, Boot Jack pack and both of them are in a 10-20 mile radius.   All three of these packs are west of the Willow, so if you go futher west, north and south, are there three more packs running from 5-10 to 25 dogs, it doesn't take long to get close to 100 +/-...

I have property south of Marshfield and have plenty of trail cam photos of coyotes, but also know that there are wolves in the area per conversations with the locals who farm the area.

Another thing to consider is his bait run was "Only 40 miles", so how many more miles was he putting on before cutting back to come to his 120 number.

I also have friends moving to the area that run pointers and I have point blank told them that if want to see their dog survive in the grouse woods up here, they better have superior control over them as a friend who run beagles for rabbits has lost dogs and been "close".   My first paragraph comes from friends who run bear dogs west of the Willow area and they've lost dogs to wolves out there and he's employed as a beaver trapper so he's in the woods plenty.

Musky Ben 

9/22/21 @ 11:27 AM
huntfish
USER SINCE 6/16/03

Regarding the wolf population, I have no idea the number. One thing I would say, it is much, much, higher than what it is stated. I believe the recent wolf hunt total in 3 days verifies that assumption....

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