I swear some of those holes people punch on those lakes...I'm shocked kids haven't drowned or there a thread about "lost my vexilar" down the hole.
Why do people use 8+ inch holes
Lmao. No we shouldn't ban anything. The point is, everyone is responsible for their own kids safety, since life is full of hazards, and we can't possibly ban things until there are no hazzards, the options are 1 watch your kids better and not make excuses, or 2 keep them at home until the risk is reduced. At no point did I say "kids should be banned from the ice". A bit of reading comprehension goes a long way...
jwog666, so now we should ban kids from ice fishing?How stupid are you.The post where I mentioned a 3 year old stepped in a 12 in. hole was not any ones fault except the dude who drilled the holes then filled them with snow and slush.My buddy who responded to the 911 call stated that the holes were practically invisible because they looked like the rest of the surface of ice, snow and slush.I get it!!! 12 inch holes are legal in Wi. but do you need a hole that big when panfishing.I personally bring an 8 in. power auger and a 5 in. hand auger when I am setting out tip-ups and panfishing.Just panfishing I just bring my hand auger.I can cut thru 10 inches of ice in less than 15-20 seconds with it.
When you have kids that are passionate about fishing and actually cry cause they can't go...it's our job as parents to keep them hooked. You obviously don't think like me and many others. When kids show interest in the outdoors, you take them. Pretty much all i have to say about. I think a majority will agree with me.
Who's talking about river fishing in the spring? I wasn't.
1 you should be watching them, they are kids, and using the excuse of "I turned my head and my kid fell in a hole" is something only an idiot would say. They are your kids, it's your job to watch them, do a bad job and that's on you. 2 if your kid can fall completely in a legal sized hole, they have no business on the ice, especially if you can't be bothered to watch them. They can stay at home until big enough/old enough that the consequences of a mistake isnt fatal. I didn't take my small kids on the ice, same as I didn't take them on the river during the spring melt for the walleye run. Too risky for someone so small and ill equipped for the conditions. There is your "blah blah blah"
I don't care what anyone uses, I really don't. the post was just to get pro's and con's and from what i see there aren't any con's. The only one thing that bothers me is the the comments about kids. If you have kids and are talking stupid about watch them blah blah, you don't take your kids out enough. if you don't have kids, i say you should shut your trap. I guess not everyone knows kids have a 3 second attention span and on to the next thing, they are watching where they walk even after you told them 20 times.
I think a good point that can be taken out of all of this would be don't cover your holes with slush or snow when done. They don't freeze as quickly then and can go unnoticed. I think i've heard enough, no need to post why you use what you use.
I posted awhile back about a 3 year old girl who went in up to her arm pits after stepping into a slush filled 12 in. hole.My buddy was one of the first responders and by the time he got there her dad and others had pulled her out.Witnesses stated an older gentleman with a huge auger drilled the holes and filled them in with slush when he left.He was panfishing.The hole was measured at 11 3/4 inches.12in augers are out there,my dad has an old auger with a 12 in blade.The thing is a beast.Still runs good put we are afraid to use it because it has no centering point and most likely would walk all over the place and tear up boots and pant legs.And no it is not for sale,he bought it at an auction about 20 years ago.
I really didn't think a bunch of grown men would get so offended or I wouldn't have asked. I'm assuming everyone posting doesn't own one big crescent wrench.
Greatly increases my ability to land a Great Lakes Steelhead or Brown trout that sometimes can push 20 lbs. They are aggressive fighting fish.
I would bet that there are far more injuries from people stepping in unfinished holes. They form a bucket hidden in the snow that can be treacherous.
By the way, I own 2-8”, 2-10” and if I could find a 12” I would get it for certain situations.
“Do your own research.”
That‘s not how it works. You put it out there that people have died from stepping in holes and then we’re asked to back it up and this is your response? A response like that reeks of you being full of crap. If you make a claim like you did then you better be able to support it.
I looked into the possibility of someone dying from stepping in a hole...specifically a pretty comprehensive site covering the physics of ice formation. It also has a tally of every known “falling through ice” fatality known in the United States plus a few in Canada. Not one in 10 years was attributed to stepping in a 10 inch hole....but using your premise of banning something related to deaths associated with breaking through ice it is very clear that all snowmobile and ATV use on frozen bodies of water should be banned. They are far, far more dangerous than stepping in a 10 inch hole.
So what is it? Do you actually have some sort of article citing the cause of death as stepping in a hole made by a 10 inch auger or were you just making that up? I’ll hang up and listen.