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If You Don't Ice Fish...You wouldn't understand

3/30/09 @ 10:16 AM
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n.pike
n.pike
USER SINCE 4/2/02
I'm all for ice safety. I'd say that all of us probably are. But so many aspects of ice fishing seem very dangerous to people who don't ice fish themselves. For example, connecting a ladder to the main ice on a lake, or wearing chest waders and hopping on the main ice shelf is not really a dangerous activity if you know the lake well enough. Especially if the water you are crossing to get to the ice is shallow and the water you are going to be fishing is shallow. Many people though, think it's crazy that I do such a thing. But, I don't think it's very risky when I'm drilling through 15 inches of ice on the main lake. The shores pulled away a little bit, but no big deal.

Any other examples you can think of where If you don't ice fish, you wouldn't understand...

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2/14/14 @ 7:34 PM
n.pike
n.pike
USER SINCE 4/2/02
Not too concerned about the warmup and just waiting to hear all some of the non ice-fisherman assuming that "The ice may not be safe," next week and beyond.

If you don't ice fish.....

1/30/14 @ 2:46 PM
hunt-fish-eat
hunt-fish-eat
USER SINCE 12/31/09
There actually was no reason to believe it was for a reason. My friend has no enemies and is known by everyone around the area as light hearted and a great family man.

Also there was nobody else around the area fishing with a permanent shack or even portables for that matter. It happened over night as he left the shack after dark and had found it that way at sunrise. A broken axe handle was the only thing left behind. There were a couple small auger holes around the area and maybe someone came out to fish at night and needed a livewell or something. Who knows. But it's unfortunate.

1/30/14 @ 2:08 PM
BugleTrout
BugleTrout
USER SINCE 9/27/01
hunt-fish-eat,

Chopping a three-foot long hole in the ice next to someone's shack isn't something that's done completely randomly. That's a lot of work unless you're motivated to do it for some reason. Not that I'm condoning the act, I'm just saying that there has to be more to the story.

1/29/14 @ 2:50 PM
hunt-fish-eat
hunt-fish-eat
USER SINCE 12/31/09
Real funny casting. You sound young and immature by the way you talk. My friend lost his shack and $1,500 in fines a few years back because someone decided it would be fun to chop a hole in the ice 3 feet long next to his permanent with an axe. It took 3 days to get it out and $500/day it was in the water. He also lost around $500 in gear. So if this is a joke to you please don't come near our waters. Fishing and hunting are earned and not a right. Respect doesn't come without earning it either.

1/29/14 @ 1:16 PM
BugleTrout
BugleTrout
USER SINCE 9/27/01
I totally understand your points on common sense and common courtesy. I do not like folks setting up right on top of me on the ice or in a boat. However, the boat argument is apples and oranges because you can’t leave your boat anchored in spot all summer and expect others to respectfully fish elsewhere. Just like you can’t claim a spot by leaving a stand overnight on public land. Why the laws are different for permanent shacks on the ice is a mystery to me.

I appreciate your civility in our debate. I’ve seen discussion on this subject go south quickly in the past. As the law currently stands, all I can do is complain on an internet forum or try to introduce a resolution for the Spring Hearings. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree and go enjoy the sport we all eagerly wait for during the hot months.

If you don’t ice fish, you wouldn’t understand.

1/29/14 @ 12:34 PM
hunt-fish-eat
hunt-fish-eat
USER SINCE 12/31/09
You also have as much right to go out there and place a permanent shack in the same location as I do. We don't even take ours out until there is at least 12 inches of ice. Our shack seems to be the first on the water anywhere near that location.

I'm very friendly in helping other fisherman and showing them tricks, rigs, etc. as long as they are respectful. We have a couple groups on our lake that feel they own the lake and have broken tip ups and shoved them down holes, broken windows of vehicles, started fights. So I'm nowhere near a mean fisherman. I just demand some common sense and respect and will return the same. Maybe your comments hold validity to your body of water but I don't know where you fish. I'm just throwing out my opinion and have been on the bad end of lack of common sense by fellow fisherman.

1/29/14 @ 12:26 PM
hunt-fish-eat
hunt-fish-eat
USER SINCE 12/31/09
I guess we have different perspectives. The lake I fish is fairly large for the area. Generally there is nobody fishing within 100 yards of us at any given time and you can put out a good spread of tip ups without issue. It is when there is nobody around you at all fishing and someone just comes right in and ontop of you. Do you like it in a boat when someone rolls into your honey hole when you are there? Close enough where lines get tangled? Why should it be different for hard water?

And if your proposal makes sense to me it would not be a permanent shack anymore it would be a portable. Your name would not be required to be displayed on it meaning it could fall through and be nobodies responsibility. A permanent shack can be set in 1 spot for the duration of the season hence the word "permanent".

If someone was fishing in my spot I would not ask them to move. I would simply put in my tip ups and setup as normal. I've never had to ask anyone to move because they are understanding and move on their own. I've actually talked to these people and they are 99% friendly and get it.

What I have a problem with is drilling holes jeopardizing my shack I spent a lot of money on. That's all I mean by "my property statement". I don't own ANY part of the lake except my shack. When holes are drilled by my shack and it falls through because of it, that is the issue.

1/29/14 @ 12:10 PM
BugleTrout
BugleTrout
USER SINCE 9/27/01
"I consider 6 feet around my shack to be my property. If you need to use that space just respect it!"

Hence my beef with permanent shacks.

I don't want permanent shacks to be banned, I just suggested that there should be a law stating that they have to be moved to a launch or public access when not in use. That makes things fair for everyone. I also put in the time and buy equipment to help me find the best spots. And, my license costs the same as yours too. Why should I not be able to fish a spot because you lay claim to it with your shack.

Tell me this, if I would beat you to your shack and set up near it, would you ask me for permission to fish in your shack when you showed up for the day?

1/29/14 @ 10:25 AM
hunt-fish-eat
hunt-fish-eat
USER SINCE 12/31/09
I should also mention it is irresponsible to use my shack as a wind break and drill multiple holes right by it weakening the ice. I've had it happen multiple times and once a hole formed under the jack stand causing the tongue to go through. Luckily it happened that day and only took about 3 hours to get it moved to a solid location.

Use common sense. I consider 6 feet around my shack to be my property. If you need to use that space just respect it!

1/29/14 @ 10:21 AM
hunt-fish-eat
hunt-fish-eat
USER SINCE 12/31/09
You can't make the argument for banning permanent shacks because of garbage or hogging a spot. I for one have a permanent ice shack and it is legal by law to leave it on the site I choose. I don't leave behind garbage. I spend over 200+ hours in that shack every season and that is on the low end. My friend and I spend nights out there frequently and put in the time to locate fish and structure. You can't be comfortable in a portable shack over night with 2 people let alone 1!

It is not hogging a spot either. I don't have a problem with people asking to fish near me. If they invade my space without asking is when I have a problem. They see me catch fish and want to move right into my holes and soon our lines are tangled. That is disrespectful. In my opinion, setting out tip ups is considered my spread on the ice. It is similar to boat fishing with multiple lines out. Get in between my lines and my location and we have an issue. However, I do fish on a lake where there is a similar weed line around the whole lake with similar structure.

I put in the work and buy equipment to help me locate the best spot to fish so why must I be forced to give it up? My fishing license cost the same as yours!

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