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If no weeds, then what?

1/27/21 @ 9:27 AM
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tzeilstra
USER SINCE 8/4/08

I fish a couple of very clear lakes that have healthy, thick weed beds during the summer and have ample panfish populations. However, come winter, the weed beds vanish and so do the panfish. The lakes aren't huge but the basin areas are very expansive and deep, so I don't like my chances of finding them out there. Has anyone here had any success through the ice on lakes like this? What areas might panfish utilize if there are no weeds? 

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3/3/21 @ 10:04 AM
Junkie4Ice
Junkie4Ice
USER SINCE 12/19/11
Nice work!! That's a dandy!

3/2/21 @ 1:41 PM
tzeilstra
USER SINCE 8/4/08

Just an update for you all. I fished one of the lakes I was referring to in my original post, and searched the deepest part of the lake for crappies. I found them! This was the biggest one of the day - a 14" personal best. Thanks for the advice!

1/28/21 @ 11:18 AM
Herb2
USER SINCE 12/28/18

You guys need to watch you tube about this topic. Several good ones out!

1/28/21 @ 11:03 AM
tzeilstra
USER SINCE 8/4/08

Trouter - I've very rarely ever seen suspended fish on my Vexilar either. That's one of the reasons I've been so hesitant to start swiss cheesing the basins of these lakes - it seems like trying to find a needle in a haystack and very likely a fruitless proposition. But, maybe the reason I haven't found suspended fish is because I'm hesitant to look in areas they're likely to be suspended!

1/28/21 @ 8:58 AM
badgerstatehunter
USER SINCE 2/6/06

I seek out suspended fish.  Sometimes they are in the deepest hole.  Sometimes there on the deeper side of a step bank.  Where maybe 15 yards away they'd be on bottom due to slope.  Suspended fish almost always bite better.  My best depth for finding suspended fish is 20-25 feet, in a spot it drops quickly from shallower water.  

1/28/21 @ 2:57 AM
trouter
trouter
USER SINCE 7/3/01

I seldom mark fish more than a foot off the bottom.  I read about suspended fish, but I never, or almost never see such a thing on my vexilar.

If the lake bottoms out at 40 feet, I fish at around 15 feet.   Right off the bottom.    



1/27/21 @ 4:01 PM
tzeilstra
USER SINCE 8/4/08

Trouter - I assume you mean over the basin (in 40+ FOW) but fishing 15 feet down in the water column? 

1/27/21 @ 2:09 PM
trouter
trouter
USER SINCE 7/3/01

I exclusively fish lakes less than 50 acres that bottom out at 40 feet.

I focus on the first dropoff, which is around 25 feet for me.  

The other spot is in a basin at around 15 feet.  

Just my 2 cents.


1/27/21 @ 12:32 PM
Junkie4Ice
Junkie4Ice
USER SINCE 12/19/11

I would guess both those lakes should have a basin bite, the lakes with weedline oriented bites year round tend to have super deep holes pushing 70+ feet around here. It definitely pays to get out with a buddy if you can! Something I don't do enough of but you can break down a basin in a fraction of the time with one guy drilling and one guy checking holes. By the time you're done drilling a straight line out to the basin, the other guy should have a good idea of what the crappie are doing so you can either double back and drill out a grid pattern in a particular area if they are stacked, or head a different direction if needed. I personally never do a grid pattern until I know the fish are stationed in the area. Probably more info than you care about but I have it down to 7 steps between holes to start out searching (gets me about 20-30 feet between holes, so 10 holes gets me roughly 75-100 yards out from my starting point) and after that I punch holes every 10' in a grid or cross pattern. 5 feet makes a big difference for those lethargic roamers mid-season, you either have to drop down right on top of them or get ahead of them. 

1/27/21 @ 11:03 AM
tzeilstra
USER SINCE 8/4/08

Junkie - Thanks for the insight...very helpful!

One lake is very small (75 acres) but deep for its size (about 45 feet deep, and 90% of the lake is 35+ feet deep). The other is just under 300 acres, and max depth of 65 feet, with most of the lake 50+ feet deep. There isn't much for mid-lake structure on either lake, pretty much just deep, big basins. 

I'll try your strategy of starting at the weedlines and finding what depth they're suspending over. 

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