What happened to all the Snakes in WI? I used to see tons of them in Waukesha county, I go in some swampy areas fishing and or catching frogs, crawfish, clams, never seen a snake. Used to see Water Snakes on Ashippun
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Fowler,
That's pretty cool to see that. I wonder if that water snake successfully swallowed that filleted trout. When panfishing with my kids years ago, northern water snakes would chase their little bluegills back to shore, sometimes grabbing them while they were still on the hook.
Forgive me, but I couldn't help but blow up your photos to identify the snake species. After review, I believe the snakes in your photographs are Midland Water Snakes (common in Arkansas), a subspecies of the Northern Water Snake (found in WI). Midland Water Snakes vary in coloration from somewhat similar to a northern water snake to a very light background color (almost copperhead base color like). Upon blowing up your pictures, the pupils on the snakes you photographed are round, so they are definitely not venomous snakes.
Below are 2 comparators with pics of Midland Water Snakes next to the snakes you saw. The bar pattern and coloration are a match for the Midland Water Snake.
Update: 2 minutes after me posting (Fowler - I just read your update to your posting)
That's pretty cool to see that. I wonder if that water snake successfully swallowed that filleted trout. When panfishing with my kids years ago, northern water snakes would chase their little bluegills back to shore, sometimes grabbing them while they were still on the hook.
Forgive me, but I couldn't help but blow up your photos to identify the snake species. After review, I believe the snakes in your photographs are Midland Water Snakes (common in Arkansas), a subspecies of the Northern Water Snake (found in WI). Midland Water Snakes vary in coloration from somewhat similar to a northern water snake to a very light background color (almost copperhead base color like). Upon blowing up your pictures, the pupils on the snakes you photographed are round, so they are definitely not venomous snakes.
Below are 2 comparators with pics of Midland Water Snakes next to the snakes you saw. The bar pattern and coloration are a match for the Midland Water Snake.
Update: 2 minutes after me posting (Fowler - I just read your update to your posting)
Not in Wi....but for the snake lovers...
Today working trail maintenance in the National Forest. We came upon a fella cleaning his morning catch of Rainbow trout.
As the entrails tumbled downstream, here comes the cleanup crew. I was amazed how quickly snakes respond when food is in the water.
Had a water moccasin aka Cottonmouth quickly taking aim on a 12-14" rainbow. Had another unidentified snake come around. Kinda looked like a Copperhead but may have been a common water snake. All this activity was within 5-10ft of the fella cleaning fish.
Update ~ I guess per my wifes FB snake group buddies, the large snake is a common water snake. I was taking guidance from the fisherman that we were admiring a Cottonmouth in action. I guess I feel a little better not sharing the area with a venomous type snake.
Today working trail maintenance in the National Forest. We came upon a fella cleaning his morning catch of Rainbow trout.
As the entrails tumbled downstream, here comes the cleanup crew. I was amazed how quickly snakes respond when food is in the water.
Had a water moccasin aka Cottonmouth quickly taking aim on a 12-14" rainbow. Had another unidentified snake come around. Kinda looked like a Copperhead but may have been a common water snake. All this activity was within 5-10ft of the fella cleaning fish.
Update ~ I guess per my wifes FB snake group buddies, the large snake is a common water snake. I was taking guidance from the fisherman that we were admiring a Cottonmouth in action. I guess I feel a little better not sharing the area with a venomous type snake.
That was a different pic I believe SM. This one had an orange stripe down his back just like the one in your photo!
I'll see if I can find it.
I'll see if I can find it.
Brent,
I remember the photo of that small snake you saw. From my recollection, that was a baby Chicago Garter Snake, a subspecies of the Eastern Garter Snake. Those are very common in SE Wisconsin.
The 2 ribbon snake species in WI, the Eastern Ribbon Snake and Western Ribbon Snake are both endangered species in this state and are not found in your specific area.
FWIW, there are 5 species of "garter" snakes in WI (genus Thamnophis); Eastern Garter Snake (with subspecies Chicago Garter Snake), Plains Garter Snake, Butler's Garter Snake, Eastern Ribbon Snake, and Western Ribbon Snake.
I remember the photo of that small snake you saw. From my recollection, that was a baby Chicago Garter Snake, a subspecies of the Eastern Garter Snake. Those are very common in SE Wisconsin.
The 2 ribbon snake species in WI, the Eastern Ribbon Snake and Western Ribbon Snake are both endangered species in this state and are not found in your specific area.
FWIW, there are 5 species of "garter" snakes in WI (genus Thamnophis); Eastern Garter Snake (with subspecies Chicago Garter Snake), Plains Garter Snake, Butler's Garter Snake, Eastern Ribbon Snake, and Western Ribbon Snake.
I saw one of those and the Fox River a few years ago SM!
It was just a baby, maybe 8 inches long.
It was just a baby, maybe 8 inches long.
A few years ago after we moved our hunting cabin to the opposite end of the property, there was a big pile of concrete blocks left behind so I spent an afternoon cleaning it up and putting it in a pile. I forget what time of year it was, but it had to of been whenever snake eggs hatch because I would guess I saw several thousand baby snakes that day. I would pick up a concrete block and 5 would slither away. And what a terrible smell! I don't know what the smell was from, but it was awful!
Anyways, heading to the cabin this weekend and hoping to do a little 'snake hunting'. You have me interested in trying to get better at spotting snakes, SM!
Anyways, heading to the cabin this weekend and hoping to do a little 'snake hunting'. You have me interested in trying to get better at spotting snakes, SM!
Junkie,
I would say I've been able to find snakes throughout WI, when I have intentionally looked for them. Most of the individuals I find are not out in the wide open, "on the crawl." Snakes have a great ability to stay concealed when they want to. Some of the largest individuals I've found in WI (5+ footers) were so well hidden I didn't know they were there until the snake saw me first and rattled its tail in the dry grass/leaves. Only then could I triangulate where the sound was coming from and spot it through the dense foliage.
I found 5 this afternoon. Only one was out in the open. The attached pics are of 2 water snakes and a fox snake that the majority of people would just walk by. In pic 1, only the right eye, nose, and jaw line of a 3 ft water snake is peering out of the leaf litter. Pic 2, another water snake coiled in the dead leaves/grass, pic 3 is a fox snake that I almost didn't spot except his head color stood out against the dry grass, where the rest of its body was perfectly camouflaged. If its head would have been tucked in the coils (like they do much of the time), I may have missed it.
I would say I've been able to find snakes throughout WI, when I have intentionally looked for them. Most of the individuals I find are not out in the wide open, "on the crawl." Snakes have a great ability to stay concealed when they want to. Some of the largest individuals I've found in WI (5+ footers) were so well hidden I didn't know they were there until the snake saw me first and rattled its tail in the dry grass/leaves. Only then could I triangulate where the sound was coming from and spot it through the dense foliage.
I found 5 this afternoon. Only one was out in the open. The attached pics are of 2 water snakes and a fox snake that the majority of people would just walk by. In pic 1, only the right eye, nose, and jaw line of a 3 ft water snake is peering out of the leaf litter. Pic 2, another water snake coiled in the dead leaves/grass, pic 3 is a fox snake that I almost didn't spot except his head color stood out against the dry grass, where the rest of its body was perfectly camouflaged. If its head would have been tucked in the coils (like they do much of the time), I may have missed it.
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