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Old-Fashioned Braided Fishing Line For Slip-Bobber Stops

8/18/18 @ 8:31 PM
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Eric5313
User since 4/13/15

Old farts like myself remember the days when bait-casting reels were often spooled with braided line (mono was still catching on for use with conventional reels).  This line was nothing like the small-diameter, slippery braided lines of today.  It was low-tech stuff, and I don't know if it's even made anymore.  I certainly can't find it.

I find that that old-fashioned line makes the very best stopper knots for slip bobbers, and best by a huge margin too, but I'm running out of my ancient supply.  I also find that the store-bought, pre-tied stopper knots are made using just about the worst choice of material, because after a several casts and passing through the rod guides, the line starts to fray and the leading edge of the knot puffs up and it can't be re-snugged on account of the fraying.  Then, if it snags badly on a rod guide during a cast, and at some point it will, you'll get the worst backlash ever if you are using a conventional reel.  Gosh, I'd like to find some more of that old-fashioned braided line, just for bobber-stop knots.  Anyone have any ideas, or a next-best alternative?

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5/26/20 @ 9:39 AM
lakeshiner
lakeshiner
User since 7/20/09

If you need beads with smaller holes, check the crawler harness components.  Not all have small holes, but some do.  That is where I found them the last time I had to buy some.  There is also 1 brand of pre-tied slip knots that come with a larger red bead with a smaller hole in it, but I forget the brand.  Overall though I agree most of the pre-tied ones suck, but there usually is 1 that is decent.  I think they tend to be orange and the material is thinner than the others.

I did recently use one of the thicker ones that frays and it irritated me just this past weekend.  I was thinking, when did I ever tie that piece of crap on this rod!.....as I lost a minnow due to it catching.

5/26/20 @ 7:40 AM
SnakeSter
SnakeSter
MEMBER since 7/9/12

I do have to admit that the new store bought slip knots are crap. 

5/23/20 @ 9:27 PM
Eric5313
User since 4/13/15

Okay, this was not a super-popular topic last year, but I wanted to follow up since this info might be useful to someone.  Thanks to Fish Hound for the idea!

The idea of using dental floss turned out to be a good one!  I have now found that using waxed dental floss is the perfect solution.  The small diameter of the dental floss gives it a better grip on small-diameter braided line, and the wax improves the grip even more.

The only issue is that many bobber-stop beads have a hole that is large enough to let the stop knot pass right through, or at least get jammed up in there!  So, you need beads with a small-diameter hole, or you can back up the dental-floss knot with one of those store-bought stopper knots (which I have otherwise avoided since they slip). But a standard bead with an extra-small hole is best, because then only the dental-floss stop knot has to go through your rod guides, and it goes through the guides better than anything else I've tried.  You won't even know it's there.

 


 


9/23/18 @ 7:34 AM
Springing Crappie
User since 9/21/18
Look at the line being sold these days as "tip up" line. It is very close to the dacron I started Musky fishing with in the 70's. 

9/3/18 @ 5:52 AM
Grey Beard
User since 1/27/02

You might consider lead core line and remove the lead. The sheath is dacron and the lead is pretty easy to pull out in short pieces. Some friend must have a tangle of scraps or give you a section off a  spare spool. 

Grey Beard

9/2/18 @ 9:32 AM
Carpio
MEMBER since 11/5/17

I never gave a thought about a bait caster!  You are limited to about the length of your rod because the rollers on the new spinning reels won’t allow a rubber stopper go through, they are too narrow. I am somewhat limited tying them so it takes me a while. Any suggestions to what brand is the best?   Thanks for the input.       CARPIO 

9/2/18 @ 12:56 AM
Eric5313
User since 4/13/15

"Too much jagging around with lines etc. Also they ball up with ice when it’s cold enough. I use the little rubber stops with a wire thru them.     Any comments? "

Well, I have never used those so I have a question.  Even the smallest of those rubber stops are at least 10 times larger in diameter than a stop knot, yet as I noted in my original post, even a stop knot that gets a tiny bit frayed can catch for an instant when going through your rod guides on a cast, and though no big deal with a spinning reel, it's absolutely intolerable with a conventional reel on account of the backlash it creates.  Does a stopper that's that large actually pass flawlessly through your guides when casting?  I can't imagine that it would, but I only base that on what seems logical.

In any case, I don't consider tying a stop knot to be "too much jagging around", since it takes like 10 seconds to do it if your fingers are nimble.

9/1/18 @ 1:23 PM
Carpio
MEMBER since 11/5/17

Too much jagging around with lines etc. Also they ball up with ice when it’s cold enough. I use the little rubber stops with a wire thru them.     Any comments?   CARPIO 

8/21/18 @ 9:20 AM
Fish Hound
User since 1/29/02

My dad taught me to use dental floss to tie the slip bobber knots, works great.

8/21/18 @ 8:44 AM
JamesD
JamesD
MEMBER since 2/16/04

I have a new favorite that I found at Fleet. Pink dacron replaces the 15# green spot dacron that I used for years. In pinch I still sometimes use 8# mono from the leftover tag end of the Palomar knot I tie on my hook with. I tie a 4 or 5 turn overhand knot around the poly main line that I tension by cranking on the reel to cause a "bow"in the fish rod. This is important because without the tension home tied stops can prevent the knot from sliding properly, without damage to the main line. Dacron was the super line of its day. The old black nylon braid and more recent clear mono, both stretch like a rubber band. Dacron's low stretch was a game changer just like poly lines are today.

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