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Refund of Deposit

5/7/20 @ 8:58 AM
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wini
User since 3/27/06

Wanted to know the opinion of all of you who regularly go to Canada. I’m the leader of a group. The group can change each year by one or two guys. This year two of the guys our new.One of them is in his 80s and would actually fly into Wisconsin to join us this year. Age and health issues. This was going to be is once-in-a-lifetime fishing trip to Canada. Given that we are scheduled for the second week of the season, it looks like we are out of luck.

The outfitter I use purchased the business about three years ago. We have been going to this location for well over 20 years. Overall, the new owners have been decent and good. However, they are taking the position that they will roll the deposit over for a year or two but they will not return. This is not making the 80-year-old newcomer happy, given that he doesn’t think he will be able to go next year.

I can understand losing the deposit if you voluntarily do not go on the trip. However, this does not seem right to me, given that we cannot cross the border.  What do all of you think?

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5/28/20 @ 8:41 AM
EsoxChuck
User since 5/23/20

Edge-That's like saying "Why go somewhere tropical when there are beaches all over the United States?"  It's about the adventure!!  Watching the plane take off and saying "See you in a week!"

5/28/20 @ 7:16 AM
kona77
User since 6/20/13

Edge- Agree 100% about the great fishing in the US (and WI).. I have been fortunate to go to Erie numerous times, to Devils Lake,  to LA. for redfish and AK for halibut etc.  And of course Lake Mich/salmon..GB/walleye's and all the other great fishing right in our state. However, out of all those great experiences I cherish our Canadian fly-in's the most. Besides the exceptional fishing there is just so much more to being on a remote Canadian lake for a week. This COVD mess also caused me to miss some spring hunting/fishing opportunities in our own state. The border is just another issue created by this issue.. Just my .02 cents..    

5/26/20 @ 11:39 AM
Edge
User since 2/28/07

So many opportunities in U.S for great fishing and yet you go Canadian? Lessons learned???

5/24/20 @ 5:34 PM
River Restorer
User since 10/6/09

My trip to bc cancled by the border closed the lodge would roll over to next year. How ever I got trip cancled insurance my $4,000.00 check is in my hand. It is a safety net and well worth the small price.

5/24/20 @ 3:10 PM
wini
User since 3/27/06

At the camp I  go to,  I suggested I would personally refund the deposit of two guys who do not think they can go next year and I would use the credit. I have yet to receive an affirmative respond. I sure hope the outfitters up there play with integrity. We are not responsible for the border closing. I guess we are all going to read the fine print dealing with deposits in the future................................................

5/24/20 @ 10:33 AM
anneyealator
User since 6/24/12

Doesnt make Canada sound like the best of neighbors..theft is theft..by gunpoint or conversion..i would never accept rollovers..too many things can change in a year

5/24/20 @ 10:01 AM
cnrwi
User since 4/1/12

A deposit is just that, a deposit to hold your spot. No services have been rendered and it's not like these are last minute cancellations.  Can you imagine a restaurant charging you for a reservation you cancelled months in advance?  Your deposit was to hold your spot and should not be subject to owners financial responsibilities.  It's not that you don't want to go, they can not provide their service.  If you lost your job and still want to fish, would the owner wave your deposit? 


Let's be real, most resort owners are not poor. I know every one I have met had much more money than I. To me, not refunding your deposit is not only epically poor business practice, it's theft. I would tell them you can be open for me to fish at my reserved time ( not many of us can go whenever we want ), if you cannot uphold your commitment, I expect a full refund.  Again, no services rendered.

In your case if you want to just take care of it and still go back to the same resort, have the group or yourself refund the guys deposit.

At the resort I go to, I cannot imagine the owners keeping our deposit.  If they did, I'd never be back. I don't need people like that in my life.

5/23/20 @ 4:05 PM
wini
User since 3/27/06

If you are correct about Clarks not rolling over to next year,, they are off my list of possible outfitters my group would use. Shameful. $300.00 is too much to loose.

5/23/20 @ 1:10 PM
fish212
User since 11/12/15

I have 3 trips planned this year, one in may was canceled and deposit for 6 guys $2400 was rolled over too next spring, my 2nd trip 4 guys $1600 deposit for end of June through another outfitter is also preparing to roll over until next June, as for my 3rd trip I don't know yet as it's scheduled for early September, but all 3 of my trips are with different outfitters and all 3 are willing to reschedule for this year or next year, 

5/23/20 @ 12:33 PM
EsoxChuck
User since 5/23/20

We have a fly in booked for July 18th-25th through Clark's resorts and outposts.  They are saying that if the border is closed we can use the deposit for the week of  July 25th-Aug 1st, or on a 4 day trip Sept 9th-13th if the border opens.  The deposit is $300 per person, we have a group of 8.  They will not refund or rollover to next year.  Seems like bad business, and a lot like theft to me.  Would like to know what other outfitters are doing?

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