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Johnson 60 HP quit running

5/11/21 @ 10:44 AM
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huntfish
USER SINCE 6/16/03

Backing up from the dock last fall taking it out the pontoon for the winter and hit a rock and motor quit. Now it just has a clunk noise when turning key. I replaced the fuse I found in motor, new starter battery with no change. I was told crankshaft may have broken which is a possibility, but wouldnt it turn over and start at least? Shift handle is in nuetral when starting.  Anything I should look at before I bring it in for service?

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6/6/21 @ 11:08 AM
Master_Piker
Master_Piker
USER SINCE 12/7/05

I agree with Brent. If you can get a decent offer for total loss option, I'd go that route. My guess is the insurance company realized what the rebuild cost was and is now trying to go the cheaper route of offering you what they think your 20+ year old motor is worth.

Brent gave you good advice that I will +1...gather some ammo on what 60 and 70hp Johnson and Evinrude outboards are going for. The number they will give you for total loss is not going to be anywhere NEAR what it will cost you to find a similar motor to replace it. I've seen a couple for sale recently and theyre going for anywhere from $1600-2400 depending on year and condition. Be ready for a $1000 offer on yours for total loss option...

6/4/21 @ 11:37 AM
Plmlk
Brent Hess
MEMBER SINCE 12/18/07

If you go that route, the insurance company will always lowball you!

Look on craigslist, eBay, and other online resources to find a similar motor along with the price, as things are going for more than they’re worth right now.

It’s good to have a number of examples to share with your insurance company, it will be a back-and-forth negotiation I’m sure.

At the end of the day, I think you’re money ahead to take the proceeds and look for a different motor, as I really believe it is likely to be a problem child for you.

Good luck!

The Woodlands Resort
(262) 661-3968
6/4/21 @ 9:19 AM
huntfish
USER SINCE 6/16/03

Wife said insurance called yesterday and mentioned total loss option....Agent not in today.

6/4/21 @ 1:10 AM
Master_Piker
Master_Piker
USER SINCE 12/7/05

huntfish,

You could always rebuild the old one and then sell it as such and use that money toward a newer motor...I honestly cannot believe your insurance company is paying for the rebuild. I would have thought they would have said "Your motor books for $XXXX, here is a check for that amount." And let you decide whether you rebuild it or look for a new one. Best hang onto that insurance if they are going to pay a repair bill that will more than likely exceed the value of the motor (less the deductible, of course). That's great for you!

6/3/21 @ 2:09 PM
huntfish
USER SINCE 6/16/03

My wife and I were talking about a newer motor after I approved ordering the repair. I am paying $500 deductible and than insurance pays out. I figure I am not out too much to give this a shot first. Hope I am right....

6/2/21 @ 11:34 PM
Master_Piker
Master_Piker
USER SINCE 12/7/05

I agree that when you get that check, it may be time to look at getting a different motor. Those 60HP 3-cylinder OMC outboards were great outboards, but even the last ones were made in 2000/2001...It is 20+ years old at this point, and what will fail next? Electrical components, coils, etc. are getting harder and harder to find for those unless you go aftermarket and then who knows what kind of quality you're really getting. It is your money, but if you can swing it, I would throw in a little more cash and part ways with that motor and get something a little newer. Those lower end rebuilds tend to be ok for a while, but as mentioned, they don't seem to last long-term for some reason.

As I previously mentioned, I was in your shoes exactly one year ago, but I blew a piston on my 70HP Evinrude. Cost to rebuild was quoted at $1800-2100 from 2 places (new top end, boring cylinders, etc.) and 4-8 months of being off the water IF they can get the parts and have the machining work done to the powerhead (they would have to send it out to have that done). Then there would be the break in period, yada yada yada...I ended up going from a 1989 70hp to a 2003 90hp V4 for about $1800 (had to buy a boat/motor/trailer package, take the motor off and then sell the boat/trailer). They make an adapter harness that converts your old wiring harness to the new (post-1996) OMC outboards. They are about $100 and you won't have to re-wire your boat. All of my gauges and the alarms work just like they did on my old motor. I am not a performance freak, but did go from a top speed of 34 mph with the 70hp to 42-43 with the 90hp with noticeable improvement in hole shot and fuel consumption seems to be about the same believe it or not. The best part was I missed about 2 weeks of the boating season, not the whole thing! I have a young boy that loves to fish...I would have missed an entire summer of memories if I would have opted to rebuild that old 70hp. I realize that everyone's financial situation is different, but if you can swing it, I would look for something newer and if used on a pontoon, maybe look 4 stroke. A 60 or 75hp 4 stroke would be really nice to have to cruise around with. Good luck!


6/2/21 @ 5:21 PM
Plmlk
Brent Hess
MEMBER SINCE 12/18/07

Glad you found the issue! 

The bottom end of two strokes are a pain!

I’d take the rebuild money from your insurance carrier and put it towards a different motor. 

They tend to be headache after headache once you rebuild the bottom end.

Perhaps others have had a different experience, but when the bottom end goes bad on an older two-stroke - it’s time to look for something different. 

The Woodlands Resort
(262) 661-3968
6/1/21 @ 12:46 PM
mattw
mattw
MEMBER SINCE 5/6/16

Awesome , glad you found the problem and also kudos for having insurance on your rig to help with the damage, I also carry insurance on my boat just incase , because well you never know when you need it . 

6/1/21 @ 11:22 AM
huntfish
USER SINCE 6/16/03

FYI - I checked motor over, cable connections, spark plug, battery, fuses with no solution so brought it in and was told lower crankshaft damaged. Have had boats all my life with no claims, and finally insurance will pay off!

5/12/21 @ 9:54 AM
huntfish
USER SINCE 6/16/03

Thanks everyone for your thoughts.  Yes I did put in new spark plugs also. I'll check a few things mentioned and go from there.

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