Thoughts on this?
WTH IS GOING ON!!
I will be attending a spring meeting to object to eliminating crossbow hunting after 10/31. This will almost completely eliminate the opportunity to hunt the rut for crossbow hunters.I am too old and don’t feel strong enough physically to use a compound bow safely anymore. The article I read gave a simple reason for it. There is an opinion that too many bucks are being harvested prior to the traditional gun season. i think I am a good example of an older generation of bow hunter who has been given a chance to hunt deer during the best time of the season to see and harvest a mature buck. It’s a shame that any hunter has to sacrifice that chance for the sake of license sales or disgruntled bow or gun hunters.
You could get duplicates of the old green tags. One year I went to deer camp and forgot mine at home.
I like the tag we get from Wyoming, very durable. Must be validated at the time of kill. I know poacher will poach. Having a 'tag' at least gives enforcement a chance. If your hunting you better have a non validated tag. If you poses a deer you better have a validated tag. The former paper/printer tag was a joke as previously posted. I spoke with Emil Diel owner of Diel tap in Plain Wi. Cant remember the exact dollar amount, but it was staggering what he lost in sales over deer season registrations.
" If one really wanted to violate it still wouldn’t be that hard (get a duplicate tag for instance). One difference I guess is if a warden watched you shoot a deer and not validate your tag you’d probably get a ticket or at least open yourself up to greater scrutiny. "
That is why I would like the old green "tag" that was issued years ago which would have to be placed on an antler/ear. It was waterproof and durable. The paper tags failed because there was no chance they stayed on - stupid anyway as all you had to do was hit "print" on your computer to generate another one. With a one-time use tag like we had, you had to slit date of kill etc. Once slit, the tag was basically toast starting the next day.
For registration-I like the call in/online process. I hated having to hang a deer (registration stations close early by me), lower a deer, drive to a registration station, and rehang the deer. I know some guys that actually register their deer now because of that - especially local farmers who shoot deer behind their house and live 10 miles from the nearest registration station.
I did a cursory survey of neighboring natural resource agency and a few others and all pretty much have some sort of telecheck/online reporting or it’s not required at all but you are required to fill out a survey if you’re chosen or something similar. Some western states have check stations they set up along highways and you are required to stop if you’re engaging in a hunting/fishing activity regardless of whether you’ve been successful or not. It happens but I really don’t believe non-registration rises to a level of concern.
I get both sides of the physical tag issue. It does allow for some level of self policing amongst hunters. If you’re contacted by law enforcement they’ll figure out pretty quick if everything is legit either way. I myself never found it overly burdensome. If one really wanted to violate it still wouldn’t be that hard (get a duplicate tag for instance). One difference I guess is if a warden watched you shoot a deer and not validate your tag you’d probably get a ticket or at least open yourself up to greater scrutiny.
Squeezer, found this from an article (I believe 2018) showing which states require a tag, but nothing on in-person registration (I do not know if any state requires that anymore for whitetail deer???). I do think we need a one-use tag that needs to be slit (like the old days, not a paper copy that can be reprinted), but I think in-person registration doesn't seem to be warranted.
Carcass Tag Required
Some states require a carcass tag of some sort to be placed somewhere on the deer. In this case, the tag is usually placed on the ear, antler, leg, etc. Some of them require the tag to be notched, while others don’t. Some even have to be written on. Furthermore, some require the animal to be tagged before it’s moved, before it’s transported, before it’s processed, etc. And finally, some require the animal to be checked in, too. Nonetheless, as of the reporting date, these are the states that require some at least some level of tagging.
States: Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming
Carcass Tag Not Required
Some states do not require a carcass tag to be placed on the deer. That said, many of them do require a tag if the deer is left in someone’s possession other than your own. Read state laws to see exactly what your state requires.
States: Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Kentucky, Wisconsin, New Mexico and Nevada.
JC - You correct stating the "archery season" would be shortened (only 2-days) through the eliminating all hunting two days prior to the nine day gun season question. I completely overlooked at it that way. The following is a link to the 6 NRB drafted proposal questions. Again, these are preliminary questions at this time. Any wording or changes could be made before they are officially approved for the questionnaire.
They do have a question about shortening the archery season by two days (banning hunting 2 days before rifle season). I am all for it. I would rather have them close it the entire week quite frankly.
It would help if I actually read all the other questions in their entirety
JC - There is no question to shorten the archery season, only the crossbow season. also, the question to eliminate the antlerless only hunt, only refers to the four day holiday hunt, not the preceding statewide four day antlerless only hunt. That is the way the questions are drafted at this time. I would not anticipate any changes being made to the questions.
"How about this, 1 buck, 1 doe, deer license $60.00, season September 15 to December 15. Any weapon, any time, giddy up. Stop telling other people how to hunt."
I'm all for it! Of course the doe tag would have to only be available for non-buck only areas.
For the Spring Hearings I will be voting to shorten the crossbow season and shorten the archery season, voting against extending the rifle season, and voting to get rid of the extra antlerless hunts (I believe that is how the questions are laid out - haven't read the published questions yet). I do not despise crossbow hunters and really don't care what weapon you use, but I do despise the continual liberal policies of the extra tags, extra seasons, and longer seasons over the past 20 years. Anything to reduce the killing of deer I will be voting for. Your idea - an attempt to limit buck harvest I completely agree with. I would be fine with longer and extra seasons if harvest is reduced. I believe the gun hunting license losses would slow also with more deer on the landscape, and limiting buck harvest would undoubtedly somewhat increase the success rate during rifle season - there are a lot of hunters that would not forego their rifle tag by shooting a forkhorn before rifle season.