I did just read an article in MN Outdoor News that had compiled some info out of TX. That research pointed to the fact that a spike is NOT always a spike...however, it did also find that the vast majority of spikes permanently lagged behind same age class bucks who sported forked antlers the first year
Once a Spike, always a Spike. Great Article.
Most of the bucks we have around are main frame 8's. Very few 10's. So where ever they filter in from 8 is the main gene.
Getting some freaky big 6's also with in the last 4 years.
Rainbow, we had some massive does with wide butts 4 of them to be exact. We let them go for a few years and noticed they never had any fawns with them. We decided to eliminate them. They looked to be some type of hermaphrodite. Bigger than a 3 year old buck.
So whats your guys opinions-
I hunt 220 acres. About 60 acres is timber, marsh and river bottom and the rest is farmland. A majority of the deer we have on our property bed on other land and come to our land to feed. Surrounding area is a mix of low land, river bottom and swamp. In this section/area, we have a majority of the food. In early bow season we might see 15-20 deer on a sit. On 3 cameras spread across the property we will see 5-15 deer a day. A majority of the deer are does with 1 or 2 fawns. I figure on any given day we have 15 or so deer enter and or stay on the property. How many does should we shoot? My buddy, the farmer and his boy hunt the property. Our neighbor to the west shots a doe or buck, not both. the neighbors to the north shoot very little for deer. The NE land owner shoots anything that moves. The neighbor to the east takes a few does and or bucks. The guys to the south and there is lots of them, the land is broken up into 20 acre plots shot a fair amount of deer. Both bucks and does.
With this many neighbors and this many hunters taking deer, how does one decide on what to shoot? Do you shoot old does, young does, little bucks or big bucks. The point is it is really hard to manage ground when you have 8-10 different neighboring land owners. We can all do our best but the deer cross fences? What do you guys think?
Since I hunt entirely public land, I’ve taken deer from Oconto, Marinette, Langlade, Forest and Florence counties, many times deer from different counties in the same year. I’ve often noted subtle differences in the appearance of these deer. I’ve read that the typical northern Wisconsin whitetail is subspecies Odocoileus virginianus borealis or the common “Virginia whitetail”. In southern Canada and even into western Minnesota the more common subspecies is Odocoileus virginianus dacotensis or the “Dakota whitetail”. I wonder if some of these Dakota whitetail couldn’t have wandered into Wisconsin and interbred with the Virginia whitetail.
Eh, it’s just a thought.
A little bit OT but one problem with being a wandering public land hunter is that some people assume that you hunt only near your cabin. A few years ago when northern Oconto county (old DMU 49A, where my hunting cabin is located) was buck-only, I shot a big doe over in eastern Marinette county (old DMU 51A) which was in Herd Reduction. I’m hoisting the doe into the maple tree to cool and drain and this guy driving by stops and starts reaming me out for shooting a doe in a buck-only unit. Kind of presumptuous, no? That’s one problem with having your cabin too close to the roadway!!!