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2019 Gun Deer Final Numbers

12/3/19 @ 12:08 PM
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JC-Wisconsin
User since 4/1/05

Just released, 2019 vs. 2018: Total buck kill down 28.6%, total harvest down 24.9%.  Northern Forest region was the worst: buck kill down 39.5%, total harvest down 38.2%.

Post opening weekend quote: "In 2018, we held the earliest possible deer season followed by the latest possible season in 2019. This occurred between the 2012-13 and 2007-08 seasons as well, and we saw similar declines in opening weekend registration totals," said DNR big game ecologist Kevin Wallenfang. 

2012 antlered harvest: 119,469

2013 antlered harvest: 102,221, drop of 14.5%

2007 antlered harvest: 133,107

2008 antlered harvest: 103,845, drop of 22%

Yes, there were decreases if you only look at the variable as stated by DNR above.  Total harvest of 75,236 bucks in 2019 tells another story.  Even in the worst years, the total buck kill was down 25% on top of the decrease "due to a late start to the season."  The buck kill was down 19% from the lowest buck kill numbers in the last 13 years.  We are on a continued and readily apparent trend downward.

As I posted in another thread, pick the year and you get the same excuses from DNR: standing crops, no snow, late start date to season, and the best of all "lack of hunter effort."

Most of us had record snowfalls late in the season which has never been seen before.  The Winter Severity Index does not properly account for deep snow or extreme cold.  -1 degree counts the same as -30 degrees, and 18" of snow counts the same as 40" of snow according to their system.  I feel a lot of deer died last winter/spring, but we were told we had a record population and a moderate winter even though hundreds of barn roofs collapsed from all the snow.

Since we as hunters failed, and did not do our part to reduce this out of control population as DNR has told us about, I suspect DNR will offer more doe tags, more seasons, more weapons, and longer seasons since we all obviously are failing at hunting.  

I am guessing the number of licenses sold next year will drop even faster with the winter we are already having.  

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TODAY @ 1:53 PM
Fishsqueezer
User since 5/19/06

Like I said, over the last 20-30 years, the value of the bone on an animals head exceeded the value of the sustenance provided by its flesh, deer hunting as we know became doomed. Nothing like staring at the head of an animal you outwitted eating at a bait pile for the rest of your life   

TODAY @ 1:39 PM
Analog man
Analog man
User since 12/10/18

The way I see it the DNR is not the problem. The Northwoods hunter is the problem. The area I live in is over run with a huge  amount of self serving , uninformed hillbillies that are only interested in there own success. They attempt to accomplish this through through putting out huge amounts of bait. Everyday I hear them talking about their corn piles that exceed 7 hundred pounds. Many bait year round. The irony is their little brains can't process the fact that the deer go almost completely nocturnal other than a brief time during the rut. Definitely a huge problem that is unenforceable and does nothing for the betterment of the sport.

TODAY @ 1:37 PM
JC-Wisconsin
User since 4/1/05

"If I was truly “in the minority,” that percentage of yearling bucks harvested would be much lower. "

Got it.  The majority of hunters would throw a 150" 10 point's antlers in a box and not mount it.    

I didn't argue that the majority of hunters have the abdominal urge and need to shoot any buck they see, and that is why, far and away, WI currently leads all states by a wide margin of the number of 1.5 year old bucks killed annually in the nation.  You should be very proud of that number.

  

TODAY @ 11:43 AM
Farnorthbadger
User since 12/7/13

What we have as a hunting experience in the Northwoods post CWD and wolves with a huge WDNR helping hand is light years away from what we see on TV. It’s light years away from what we had here just 20 years ago .I’d be happy to see a healthy deer population with plenty of public options for everyone .

TODAY @ 11:25 AM
Fishsqueezer
User since 5/19/06

If I was truly “in the minority,” that percentage of yearling bucks harvested would be much lower. 

TODAY @ 11:23 AM
Fishsqueezer
User since 5/19/06

I’ve shot plenty of “big bucks,” none of which are “on the wall” (or taken with the aid of bait). I don’t think I’m in the minority when I say that is not my priority. And this exchange is a microcosm of where deer hunting has gone over the last 20-30 years where there was maybe a couple hours a day on TNN (remember TNN outdoors) of big buck hunting shows now we have whole networks dedicated to streaming 24 hour big buck action right into your home. Many hunters now believe their hunting experience should be similar to what they see on TV, if not something is wrong. Expectations do not align with reality, and the gulf between the two is ever growing. 

TODAY @ 11:09 AM
JC-Wisconsin
User since 4/1/05

Then you are in the minority.  Most guys "who don't care about antlers" have never shot a big buck, but when they eventually do it goes on their wall.  

TODAY @ 10:51 AM
Fishsqueezer
User since 5/19/06

Not the trash but a cardboard box, with all the other antlers. You should see my list of things I could buy for what it costs to mount a 150” ten point. I just don’t need it hanging on my wall to remind myself and others just how good I am at hunting, or fishing in the case of muskies. 

TODAY @ 9:56 AM
JC-Wisconsin
User since 4/1/05

Y-Bone:

"Great Post JC_Wisconsin,  spot on.  Everyone has to shoot their buck then brag about it.  Only issue is....NO ONE REALLY CARES ABOUT YOUR 4pt BUCK."

And who exactly cares about your 10pt......but you?

I love this argument from those that "don't care" about antlers.  How many of these guys would shoot the 1.5 year old spike over the 1.5 year old 8 pointer?  How many of these guys would throw the 10 point 150" buck rack in the trash instead of mounting it?  These are the same guys who probably oppose musky size limits as it restricts what they can kill.





TODAY @ 9:51 AM
JC-Wisconsin
User since 4/1/05

"I love the “dnr this dnr that”.....living in the past gentleman, cdacs run the show, not the dnr. Dnr is at the cdac meetings simply to provide data/information. Cdacs set all management goals, not the dnr. U got a problem with how “your” herd is managed, go to the cdac meetings and start bitching "

You are kidding right?  Saying CDACs have ultimate control over deer populations is like saying I have a shot with Jennifer Aniston.  CDACs have been overruled on countless occasions as has already been pointed out.  CDACs are forced to rely on DNR data as their only guiding light.  CDACs are stacked with those from forestry and agriculture who will NEVER say the deer population is too low - they don't have a care about the deer herd as deer cost them money pure and simple.  You have 2 of the 7 seats stacked with those who will always vote to decrease the deer population, and arguably a 3rd with transportation.  The other 4-5 will vote maintain, decrease, or increase - the only objective seats on the councils.


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