Anyone know the ice depth in the deep pool up by the Waterfall?
GRANT PARK/OAK CREEK
MOON PHASE (11%)
By the way, Skamania are a "SUMMER" run fish.
So the fish start to run in late June & July all depending on a west wind for several days and rain.
As soon as the water cools in the harbor they will come in.
A small shrimp 5-6' under a bobber is all you need on the piers
Great for trollers and pier fishermen
Better sharpen you skills and bring an A Game to catch them in the creeks and rivers. I am not a novice and hours to catch ratio on Skam's is going to go way up in terms of hours fished. Give your presence away on a hole and the game is over on a hole. Just leave and come back in 45 min because they just shut down when they know you are there.
The only ones who catch them consistently in the creeks and rivers are very knowledgeable and have a perfect presentation.
If you are lucky enough to hook in a creek its berserko time. They are flying torpedoes that will test the best fisherman and are great escape artist.
Be careful what you wish for.
Frustration usually prevails.
Being a river/creek guy i am all too familiar. I would say its close, maybe slightly more domestics enter the rivers than C4's...Not to say some years had more than the other, but as an average domestics are more common. That being said, i have also caught a lot of C4's before the rivers lock up, under the ice, and early spring after ice out. It would be nice to see more numbers of C4's than the domestics, as they are a strain that gets bigger, and better fighting IMO.
Ah yes, skamania, one of my favorite fish to target. Not really worth the efforts around here, although right conditions (last summer would have been one), there are a selected few creeks and rivers that will get fish. Some of these creeks and rivers i have caught them in do not receive a skamania stocking. I dont think the skamania program here will do what Indiana's or some of Michigan's program did, but it will provide a year round fishery off our pierheads, and a better fall steelhead program. Truly the best fighting fish in the Great Lakes IMO. Nothing like hooking a upper teens or low 20+lb summer steel.
We will know if this skamania program is working 2-4 years down the road if we get prevailing west winds during the summer. Once cold water is along the North and South pier in Racine, you should be able to float some shrimp/ale's under a slip float and get into these fish.
The C4s in the Milwaukee confines are stocked at McKinley Marina, Kinnickinnic Ramp (probably the water institute) and South Shore Marina. You can find it all in the great lakes stocking database, http://www.glfc.org/fishstocking/exactsearch.htm . Other than Green Bay, I don't believe there are any offshore sites for BT stocking. The stocking numbers were roughly halved in 2017. So no real immediate impact until 2019 when I would think it would start to show up. Keep in mind that the WR strain has only 4% of the stocked fish make it to age 2. The C4s are going to go up the rivers as well.
Here's an interesting article about domestics/seeforellens. The author has photos of both strains he caught in an estuary. He mentions that the domestics run mostly in Sept/Oct. The seeforellens really don't show up until Nov/Dec
If you enjoy catching browns in Sept/Oct you may be out of luck unless you have access to a boat...and if you fish estuaries you may hardly find any browns at all even in Nov/Dec. If you want to target browns in the near future you may want to invest in a boat!
The seeforellen browns definitely come up the rivers but don't like jumps as much. For example, you don't see a ton of browns above Estabrook, and almost nonexistant above kletsch. That being said they do tend to hang in the harbors a lot more, so just change your tactics a bit. You would do much better in the late fall now anyways if you wanted browns, by targeting the harbors.
Yes, skamania are being stocked starting next year. So at least 2 or 3 years before we see even the first ones and probably another 3 or so before we start getting overlap and multiple year classes coming in in fishable numbers. The first few years also only have them stocked in the egg collection rivers of the Root River and Kewaunee river.