Reduction in and/or Denial of Lake Access Issues

7/12/18 @ 10:29 AM
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Chemist
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USER since 6/17/01

There is a concerted effort to limit public access to the lakes that they own. In addition, the DNR is no longer enforcing the code that says that lake property owners may not have more than 2 boats docked per 100 feet of frontage.

Last night the Big Cedar Lake Protection and Rehabilitation District vote 3-2 to close the boat launches once all parking spaces were filled.   This is the recording.

The vote is at 14 minutes

They said their ordinance is based upon an ordinance from Pine Lake in Chenequa.

It was also brought up that similar access lawsuit from the Lake Geneva area went to the supreme court where the closing of the boat launches was deemed unconsitutional.  

The fishing public needs to know about these kinds of rules and this is probably a good place to start that discussion.



Edited on 7/12/18 7:27 PM
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7/17/18 @ 7:42 PM
mattw
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Basicly , this is what it comes down too, people that live on the lake don't want to follow the rules and regulations but want to make rules for everyone else . It's that simple. I use to fish big cedar a lot when i worked in west bend , was easy to take boat to work and punch out and be fishing to 20 minutes . Weekends there regardless are horrible , way too many boats trying to occupy the same space , you add on top of that people who just don't care and are not safe . Now as far as the argument about how pine lake does their launch , you have to remember there is only ONE public launch that is controlled by the Village . Like it or not they set their rules accordingly, plus it's a much smaller lake compared to big cedar. Now , those who can vote for the commissioners on the board , I would highly recommend doing so because it's clearing obvious that they screwed the pouche on that vote . The only way to help the overcrowding of boat traffic on that lake is to have both lake residents and non residents follow the rules and regulations that the DNR have set for how many boats per square mile of lake area.  But you know that will never happen 

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7/17/18 @ 7:13 PM
Chemist
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Hogger,  I was at the meeting. Here are my best answers to your questions. 

Did I miss the exact issue that needs to be fixed? What is the exact issue here that needs to be fixed?

It was unclear what needs to be fixed because the commisioners each had different reasons. I have a video clip of 18 minutes of the meeting attached to the original post. You can see that what I say is true. 


Too many boats are making the lake unsafe? The lake is getting hurt by too many boats?


This is the company line. However, I believe that it is a red herring. There are at most 75-100 boats launched at any one time. However, there are between 2500 and 3000 boats docked on the lake by property owners and their guests/customers. If even 10% of them are running at any given time it dwarfs what comes onto the lake through boat launches and they know it because I told them that at the meeting.


Too many trailers are being parked on roads, making the roads unsafe?

There was clearly too many people illegally parking on area roads and accepting a possible $20 fine as just part of what it costs to go to the lake. New NO PARKING signs were put up, the Town deputized the lake district cops to write tickets and that problem was solved prior to the meeting and the vote. The head lake police officer made that very clear, and on the attached video.


The fishing is getting bad?

No comment.


Lake home owners want people off their lake? 

For some, that may be true. But some of us that live in the lake district (because we are within 1000 feet of the lake) but have no frontage are shut out of the lake just like everyone else. I can tell you I will be at the annual meeting and will vote for BCLPRD commissioners accordingly, as will everyone on my road.


I don't think I have heard the exact issue that is trying to be fixed here.

That's because there was no one issue brought up by the Commissioners of the BCLPRD. It seemed very clear that the chairman wanted this to pass, and by saying someone else voted yes when he had actually voted no, he was able to bully the old man enough to get it passed. It was just that simple. Look at the video, it is remarkable. 

Link to the 18 most important minutes of the meeting including the vote.

Edited on 7/17/18 7:14 PM
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7/17/18 @ 4:00 PM
thehogger
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USER since 3/24/08

Did I miss the exact issue that needs to be fixed? What is the exact issue here that needs to be fixed? Too many boats are making the lake unsafe? The lake is getting hurt by too many boats? Too many trailers are being parked on roads, making the roads unsafe? The fishing is getting bad? Lake home owners want people off their lake? I don't think I have heard the exact issue that is trying to be fixed here.

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7/13/18 @ 8:41 PM
Wicasa
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USER since 11/11/15

Re:

...The guy in center with the blue shirt actually voted for the man to his right in the black shirt. The man in the black shirt seemed to be totally confused as to what was going on.

No worries, Johnny Cash clears it all up

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7/13/18 @ 7:44 PM
Tuffy2
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MEMBER since 7/7/04

That was on the other thread. But as long as I’m back, did you have the blue shirt on, or the black. ?? 

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7/13/18 @ 5:43 PM
Abest
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Tuffy2 You said that B=4!

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7/13/18 @ 5:26 PM
Tuffy2
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Thinking man....The guy in center with the blue shirt actually voted for the man to his right in the black shirt. The man in the black shirt seemed to be totally confused as to what was going on.

This is my last post on this thread. I still maintain that they cannot stop you from launching, only parking. I may test that theory some Saturday, or Sunday. It will be fun to call the sheriff to find out if the lake association owns Gohnring Drive. You know that the property owners company is doing just what I am talking about.

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7/13/18 @ 4:55 PM
HotPockeT
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USER since 3/18/11

Why can't they just do no parking signs on the street and tickets for the ones that do. I don't understand all these extras

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7/13/18 @ 3:52 PM
mskyadk
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USER since 11/11/01

Minds will change soon enough, once they can't do the dump and go. Closed is closed.

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7/13/18 @ 2:44 PM
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