Lets here some good dog stories as well.
Can we attach pictures in this forum now?
What's easier? Shooting a limit on the wing? Or shooting a limit out the window?
I'd really like to know what % of the birds are shot off the road. I'm guessing, but 50%+ wouldn't surprise me a bit. Stopping this practice would help more than reducing the limit or the season.
Why punish the guy that might actually shoot a limit once in a while?
When I was a kid (I'm 50 now) my father and uncle did a whole heck of a lot of road hunting. So did every hunter they hunted with.
I guess here's more than one reason I got that over/under .410/.22 when I was about 10.
But I also remember something I heard in college. Your "mentors" can teach as much about what not to do as they can about what to do.
I would be willing to bet bet that the largest portion of the grouse harvest in Iron county is by road hunters. The lone warden that we have actually has a " robo grouse" to catch the giys shooting out the windows. From what i understand, catches quite a few guys . I've seen guys driving around on atvs with .410 pisrols. Biggest selling gun at the hardware store is 20 ga youth model, easier to swing out truck window. The 2 legged predators have more of an impact up here than the 4 legged ones.
You really think that River? I'm betting the majority of birds are shot off of roads. While sitting for deer, it's a steady line of traffic all afternoon till dark. Always wondered if the drivers knew there was another vehicle ahead of them by 2 minutes..lol
Don't screw with the season or bag limits!
Do you want really help the grouse? Then make it illegal to shoot off the gravel roads. How about 50 feet from the center?
Stop the ground pounders and limb swatters...especially the hicks that shoot right out the truck window. How many of you fit that description? A lot of guys would never get a grouse if they had to shoot them on the wing.
Which is more of the same old same old. A lot of factors have gotten small game hunting to this low point in Wisconsins history. Many bad decisions of predators and grouse management most of which originated inside of our WDNR. There are steps that can be taken to start increasing our Wisconsin grouse populations. Bobcatand turkey harvest increases would be a start , a shorter season and lower bag limits might be another. It's time our wildlife managers start managing ,not just doing the same old same old .
Past year Ive spent some time googling Ruffed Grouse studies. There is a good number of studies on grouse in general but most of studies I read seems flawed due to the small number of grouse that are in each study. Conclusive comments of each study are rife with words like "maybe" "seem to" and therefore the researchers themselves are admitting to a certain amount of inconclusiveness as a result.
Then I have to ask myself with all these studies of grouse and deer over the past 90 years how has it helped the average hunter? For grouse hunt 20 year old aspen growth with a mix of conifers. There is not much else out there that seems applicable. And even when certain knowledge is gained from studies the resulting application of wildlife managers seems to be "let nature take its course" .