Need to improve my Flasher/Fly program for Kings this year.

4/24/18 @ 6:00 PM
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mac da gaff
mac da gaff
MEMBER since 9/23/01

I seem to zig when the fish zag. I am consistent on my Fly length 28". What about lead behind the ball or diver. speed at ball, and what color or size flasher/dodger?

I feel that I am Flasher challenged with my deep spread.

Someone boost my confidence this year and tell me I'm doing the right thing.

I'm to the point that in order to get away from my spoon addiction I might have to just leave them at home and force myself to fish the dodger/flash program!

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7/9/18 @ 11:06 AM
BigMusky12
BigMusky12
USER since 12/22/04

you dont need the heavy boards.   You get more horizontal spacing with bigger boards...but that is irrelevant if running a 6 rod spread with one planer on each size. 

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7/7/18 @ 5:53 PM
bass ackwards31
bass ackwards31
USER since 1/18/17

Yes they work on boards but due to the heavy drag from them most run bigger boards, such as TX44 from church

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7/7/18 @ 12:33 PM
NEVER GIVE UP 2
NEVER GIVE UP 2
USER since 6/7/10

I have only run 00 dodgers for coho on lead core. Do ff work good on lead core off of planer boards? I always use ff with dipsey and riggers.


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6/22/18 @ 10:38 PM
luckylou
luckylou
USER since 8/25/11

Flasher fly fishing can be tricky. My advice:

1-don’t give up. When you do figure it out, you’ll know why. 

2-keep it simple. I run pretty much 1 flasher: hot spot glow and silver back. Pretty much 3 flies: bullfrog, lbs, and double aqua. Occasionally those 3 patterns with a little mirage opal in them

3-put flashers on all of your riggers and divers from mid-July through early september (assuming you’re Fishing deeper than maybe 65 fow. 

4-figure our your go to speed and keep it constant. All the time. Keep all flies the same leader length. The more guesswork you invite into your program, the more difficult it becomes to pintpoint success/failure. 

5-did I say don’t give up? It’s the best way to bring in kings to your spread....even if flashers aren’t getting bit, they are working. Trust me. 

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5/3/18 @ 9:56 PM
diver hunter 1987
diver hunter 1987
USER since 9/29/09

I do the most damage on chrome flashers with blue bubble tape.  Fly is a lbb with uv beads.  Next would be chrome flasher with lime green bubble tape with uv fly with green uv beads.  The leaders I run are 3 times the flasher length and tied with 50lb floro to give it extra whip.  I haven’t done well on white flashers dunno why.  The only time I’ve used big spin doctors is with meat but I haven’t ever caught a fish on my 8in spin doctors with flies so I’ve kinda retired those.  Also I really like the flashers with the fins they are very speed tolerant.

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4/29/18 @ 8:30 AM
sslayer
sslayer
USER since 6/9/06

I ran the big Spin Doctor blades that were 10". I bought the ones that were glow blades and had prism tape on both sides. I had one in purple and one in blue. Ran them 15' from the ball with a fly leader length of 36"

Mainly fished close to the bottom like 5', I had Cannon Digi-Troll IV's with bottom tracking to stay that close.

Mainly caught Lakers on them.

Good Luck

SS

Edited on 4/29/18 8:32 AM
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4/28/18 @ 5:06 PM
BigMusky12
BigMusky12
USER since 12/22/04

Anyone have success on larger spin doctors like 10 or 12 inch.   Seems no one runs them.  I have run the for a few years with no hits, so I am considering retiring or drastically changing leader length.  PM if you have advice.  

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4/28/18 @ 7:07 AM
BigMusky12
BigMusky12
USER since 12/22/04

When the charters are just catching lake trout and steelhead, that is not time to build confidence in FF program.  FF is not for shallow bite either really when fishing is super hot.  I think keeping expectations set right is important.   

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4/27/18 @ 11:03 AM
sslayer
sslayer
USER since 6/9/06

One other point on using flashers. If you can't be there for the pre-dawn early light King bite. I'd be running one downrigger as close to the bottom as you can, like between 5' to 10'. There's a pucker factor involved but the big boys are resting after the first feed.

My deep flashers were nearly always a white blade with glow crushed ice on both sides.

3" Howie flies in LLB or LLB with some glow.

Good Luck

SS

Edited on 4/27/18 11:04 AM
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4/26/18 @ 4:35 PM
mac da gaff
mac da gaff
MEMBER since 9/23/01

Ok, to answer some of the questions and add to this conversation, I do have a Depth Raider and now feel that I would give up my sonar before I live without the Depth Raider. Awesome tool.

But even with this speed at ball information I seem to struggle to hook up to the bigger kings. I might add that I seldom get the opportunity to fish the early bite. (darn job) But have like most of you out there great action in the last hr of light and 2 hrs after sunset. but here again spoons do the damage not the flashers. I run both divers with wire also, and have 2 riggers off the back side with cores (5&7) on skies and a full core down the shoot. The cores are firing off more often than the riggers and dipseys.

Any color patterns of flasher and fly that are better than others? I normally have 8" flashers with Leprechauns and Bull Frogs 28" behind. I will try tightening them up behind the release to 15 ft.

I appreciate your help and input, it seems that I am not alone in my spoon fetish but I'm determined to expand my arsenal!!

Mac

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