State of hunting and fishing

12/8/15 @ 10:36 PM
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MightyHunter
MightyHunter
USER since 3/25/06
I've been thinking about this for a while just not sure how i wanted to word it so this may not come out right but when it comes to the state of hunting and fishing in Wisconsin, is Wisconsin going to be okay or are we in trouble. Now I'm talking all sorts of hunting from deer to bear to waterfowl to upland game. As a sportman myself I feel that right now there is a massive difference in opinions between all of us as how things are at the this point in time. Now don't get me wrong there is always differences in opinions and there always will be but I feel like this is a critical period in time. Now for the second part of this whole question is this...are populations of game and fish slowly decreasing or is there a chance that animals are slowly adjusting and getting smarter. I fish bass tournaments and I feel as if fish are getting smarter because they are so pressured. Is the same happening in hunting? Sorry if this sounds crazy but I feel like things are changing and I wanted to see if anybody else thinks so.
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9/21/17 @ 7:47 AM
.Long Barrels
.Long Barrels
USER since 12/9/14

Again,  publiclandhunter crying the blues....I'm the conservative outdoorsman.  I actually release fish,  I don't throw in the first 25 perch that come over the side of the boat.  Everyone seems to be in a rush to fill the livewell,  snap a pic and send it to all their friends.  it's true,  social media is killing the outdoors.  It's a venue to brag and that's it.

You can call me a chit head or whatever you choose,  but it's guys like you that are the social media whores.  "hey guys i caught my 5 walleye's on bago".  WoooHoooo, so you did something that 100  other guys also did that same day.  

Like I said,  stop feeling sorry for yourself.   So I guess you can be a whiner and social media whore....and i'll just continue to ruin the world and aide in the degradation of hunting as we know it by filling a buck tag every 4-5 years and shooting 2-3 doe a year (like the DNR wants)....Oh yeah and being conservative on the lakes by only keeping what i can eat and releasing small fish.  Yeah,  but i'm the bad apple and a total chit head right?  Comical.  

Edited on 9/21/17 8:03 AM
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9/20/17 @ 9:31 PM
Fishsqueezer
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Casey you started off so well with your post but them seemingly fell into the familiar trap you spoke so ill of in the first half. I for one am looking forward to the day and a half I get to gun hunt and possibly a sit or two with my bow and would be thrilled to get an opportunity to "rush things" and take the first dumb 1.5 year old buck because between my business and my three young children I actually am too busy. I'm not complaining, I wouldn't change anything, this is the life I chose  and I'm sure there's several hundred thousand of us "non-true hunters" who are in the same boat I'm in. 

Edited on 9/20/17 9:33 PM
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9/20/17 @ 8:58 PM
Casedog
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USER since 10/4/11

I have followed lake link since it started and created an account a few years ago because the hunting forums were the best on the web and some awesome stories were being told-- benifiting everyone-- and in the last 2-3 years the traffic either went somewhere else or everyone got sick of fighting!! Nobody knows everything and everybody knows something so if we could all find a common ground that would be wonderful!! I know this state has quite the variety from far left to far right but just like the government it's time for a moderate to band us together as one again!! IMHO we should at least be able to agree to disagree and ultimately I truly believe we all want what's best for the deer herd and yes I know we can't even agree on that!! Everyone is in such a rush these days so yeah maybe they shoot the first dumbest 1-1/2 year old buck because there to "busy" to hunt and happy to fill a tag?Not many of us are deer biologists but the true hunters who don't rush things should try and help the next guy to not be so rushed!! Know I'm just rattling out loud as I often do but I would love to see the old hunting forum traffic of days past because it truly was  the best on the web!! I think everyone went silent because I can't find a good forum where people use each other's wisdom to gain knowledge--done babbling-- Casey 

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9/20/17 @ 1:50 PM
Publiclandhunter
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May have to revisit the Reason WI deer hunting eliminate thread again.  The one where LB and that Walleye guy were telling everyone how to shoot big bucks and how great they are.  Flippin the bird to a guy registering a spike remember that one?  But that thread went South, we found out the Walleye guy had 6 DUIs, beat his wife, never served his country and just like LB was full of chit. 

I have zero tolerance for chitbags.  LB when your not contradicting yourself on this thread you are bashing people on the lake Winnebago thread for the size perch they keep.   I said it in the beginning of the eliminate thread, guys like you are the biggest reason for the decline in both sports.  Big fish and antlers over ethics.  ie chitbags. 

 


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9/20/17 @ 1:36 PM
GreatOutdoors2001
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If I'm being honest here, I would much rather be next to the guy who shoots 1 buck every 5 years, puts out some winter food, and maybe does some other stuff to benefit the deer than being next to the guy who shoots 2 bucks a year and does nothing to help the resource.  Those bales he might be tossing out aren't cheating me out of anything.  There is more shared resource available.  

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9/20/17 @ 12:38 PM
.Long Barrels
.Long Barrels
USER since 12/9/14

words can't explain how pathetic you sound.  Cry about bait.  Cry about private land food plots.  whine whine whine.  Pretty typical for around here.

First off I won't be hunting this weekend but if people want to,  go for it.  If they do release an arrow,  do you think it was their intentions to put the arrow somewhere else than in the vitals?

See you talk out of your arse.  If you hit a deer bad in this heat,  you still have to give it reasonable time to expire.  What don't you understand about that?

No the bales are about 1000-1100lbs,  but who really has to time to weigh them.  Oh yeah,  go back and find where I said "all winter".  RIght, you won't,  cause that's not what i said. Just another fabrication on your part....poor little fella,  do you need a hug?   You need to stop feeling sorry for yourself

Edited on 9/20/17 12:47 PM
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9/20/17 @ 11:48 AM
Publiclandhunter
Publiclandhunter
USER since 8/31/11

Not only is it acceptable it's ethical.  If you decide to pick up a bow this weekend with these temps you don't have the luxury of waiting all night.  You have to understand that before you even set foot in the woods.

It's also the law.  Wanton waste means to intentionally waste something negligently or inappropriately (feeding coyotes, letting rot).  The wardens may not ticket for this but as sportsman it should be common sense.  Then again I'm telling this to a guy who drops 1200 hay bales all winter. 


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9/20/17 @ 10:59 AM
.Long Barrels
.Long Barrels
USER since 12/9/14

So pushing a deer and losing it is acceptable?  Sure thing bud.  "Do gooder" at it's finest.

Edited on 9/20/17 11:00 AM
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9/20/17 @ 10:56 AM
Publiclandhunter
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Potentially wasted deer meat there is no doubt what I'd do.  

I don't play the odds I accept the responsibility and consequences of letting an arrow fly with warm temps.

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9/20/17 @ 10:18 AM
.Long Barrels
.Long Barrels
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yeah it came across wrong,  but i'll let you guys form your opinions of me,  I couldn't care less.  only one that bothers me is FishSqueezer,  I do everything by the book.  what you describe is poaching.  I'm not that guy.  Except maybe throw out a bale or two in the winter...doesn't make me a poacher.  I shoot a buck maybe every other 4 or 5 years too.  So if i put an arrow in it, I'm tagging it even if it's a bone pile.

Anything else written here I couldn't care less.  I've never had a rotten deer,  i've left many lay on the side of caution.  

Casedog is right,  push a deer and it's gone.  As a hunter it's my responsibility to do the right thing in recovering that deer.  My hyperbole of "Horns don't rot" or "maggots on it" was simply a matter of speech.  If i have to leave that deer lay because i made a bad shot in the liver,  it's gonna lay for 8 hours and I don't give a crap about meat at that point.  If I go in at 5 and jump that deer,  a liver shot deer will run like a MOFO and leave ZERO blood.  At that point your ethics got in the way of successfully recovering that animal.  I don't know what the percentage of lost deer are,  but i'd be willing to bet a high percentage if of lost deer are from people pushing them.

As madforlabs said,  tracking is a skill.  Last year a guy called me to track.  he said he "hit it good".  I said did you see it fall?  Nope.  Well then lets wait 4 hours and go look.  He was like "no F'n way".  Ok, so we went but I told him if I don't see what i want to see i'm calling the shots here.  about 150 yards into the track,  we found a bed.  He was jacked....I was NOT optimistic.  So he's thinking this deer can't be far and wants to push on.  What he didn't know what that all the blood to that point was dry or 75% already.  All the bed and blood afterward was wet.  We just jumped that deer but didn't know it.  I dragged his arse out of that woods and we went back 2 hours before dark.  We found that deer 100 yards from the last bed still alive.  Hit it in the liver going on 8 hours.  He able to put another arrow in it.  

If it was warm and he insisted we keep going cause it's warm...that deer would have been in the next county.  

you guys can bash all you want,  but when the rubber hit the road and you are in the situation where you are up against warm potentially wasted deer or bumping it and having zero chance of recovery......i'd love to know what you'd do.  If you push it,  that's just as ethically wrong.

Edited on 9/20/17 10:57 AM
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