Old-Fashioned Braided Fishing Line For Slip-Bobber Stops

8/18/18 @ 8:31 PM
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Eric5313
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Old farts like myself remember the days when bait-casting reels were often spooled with braided line (mono was still catching on for use with conventional reels).  This line was nothing like the small-diameter, slippery braided lines of today.  It was low-tech stuff, and I don't know if it's even made anymore.  I certainly can't find it.

I find that that old-fashioned line makes the very best stopper knots for slip bobbers, and best by a huge margin too, but I'm running out of my ancient supply.  I also find that the store-bought, pre-tied stopper knots are made using just about the worst choice of material, because after a several casts and passing through the rod guides, the line starts to fray and the leading edge of the knot puffs up and it can't be re-snugged on account of the fraying.  Then, if it snags badly on a rod guide during a cast, and at some point it will, you'll get the worst backlash ever if you are using a conventional reel.  Gosh, I'd like to find some more of that old-fashioned braided line, just for bobber-stop knots.  Anyone have any ideas, or a next-best alternative?

Edited on 8/18/18 8:33 PM
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9/3/18 @ 5:52 AM
Grey Beard
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USER since 1/27/02

You might consider lead core line and remove the lead. The sheath is dacron and the lead is pretty easy to pull out in short pieces. Some friend must have a tangle of scraps or give you a section off a  spare spool. 

Grey Beard

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9/2/18 @ 9:32 AM
Carpio
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MEMBER since 11/5/17

I never gave a thought about a bait caster!  You are limited to about the length of your rod because the rollers on the new spinning reels won’t allow a rubber stopper go through, they are too narrow. I am somewhat limited tying them so it takes me a while. Any suggestions to what brand is the best?   Thanks for the input.       CARPIO 

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9/2/18 @ 12:56 AM
Eric5313
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"Too much jagging around with lines etc. Also they ball up with ice when it’s cold enough. I use the little rubber stops with a wire thru them.     Any comments? "

Well, I have never used those so I have a question.  Even the smallest of those rubber stops are at least 10 times larger in diameter than a stop knot, yet as I noted in my original post, even a stop knot that gets a tiny bit frayed can catch for an instant when going through your rod guides on a cast, and though no big deal with a spinning reel, it's absolutely intolerable with a conventional reel on account of the backlash it creates.  Does a stopper that's that large actually pass flawlessly through your guides when casting?  I can't imagine that it would, but I only base that on what seems logical.

In any case, I don't consider tying a stop knot to be "too much jagging around", since it takes like 10 seconds to do it if your fingers are nimble.

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9/1/18 @ 1:23 PM
Carpio
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Too much jagging around with lines etc. Also they ball up with ice when it’s cold enough. I use the little rubber stops with a wire thru them.     Any comments?   CARPIO 

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9/1/18 @ 8:37 AM
JamesD
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Pic of the pink with a 4 turn overhand bobber stop knot, shown on a "bowed" ice fishing rod for demonstration purposes. Green spot dacron was my old favorite. I tried poly lines but they seemed harder to slide up and down and came apart easier than the lines with a little stretch.

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8/21/18 @ 9:20 AM
Fish Hound
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My dad taught me to use dental floss to tie the slip bobber knots, works great.

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8/21/18 @ 8:44 AM
JamesD
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I have a new favorite that I found at Fleet. Pink dacron replaces the 15# green spot dacron that I used for years. In pinch I still sometimes use 8# mono from the leftover tag end of the Palomar knot I tie on my hook with. I tie a 4 or 5 turn overhand knot around the poly main line that I tension by cranking on the reel to cause a "bow"in the fish rod. This is important because without the tension home tied stops can prevent the knot from sliding properly, without damage to the main line. Dacron was the super line of its day. The old black nylon braid and more recent clear mono, both stretch like a rubber band. Dacron's low stretch was a game changer just like poly lines are today.

Edited on 8/21/18 8:46 AM
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8/20/18 @ 4:16 PM
Eric5313
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Yes, this is for tying a stop knot right onto the main fishing line.  Though the pre-tied stopper knots are easy if starting from scratch, they can't be applied to a line that's already been rigged. 

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8/20/18 @ 8:56 AM
Tim Zwieg
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Braided Dacron, thought it was still available, perhaps I will have to look for it.  It is a great line for teaching kids how to cast a baitcaster.  Tighten that baby down, till they can cast 15' without a rats nest, then let them cast farther and farther.  I guess its a good line, because it is like rope and the nests are easy to get out!

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8/19/18 @ 11:45 AM
kyl_me
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Are you just tying it to your line or do you prep something ahead of time (similar to a pretied bobber stop)?

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