Michigan DNR going to blow it too!

So now that CWD has been found in the U.P., the stage has been set for the DNR to destroy that deer hunting too.  They're already giving out 5 deer tags to any landowner within 15 miles, and prepared to ban baiting and feeding. 

Now, I prefer to hunt with no bait, we have foodplots, but the holding potential for the land only allows for so much unless minerals and supplemental feeding are allowed.  I can tell you the local deer pop. has increased by 50-70% since we started year round supplemental feeding and the hunting is amazing.

I think it's horrible that the DNR manages with insurance companies in mind rather than sportsmen.

Let me have it. What are you're thoughts and reasonings.

UPDATE: After the testing in Waucedah, U.P. no more positive results for CWD, yet it seems the Midnr is still leaning towards banning baiting and feeding. Socialism is still alive. States need to rid their payrolls of dnr and allow resource minded fishing and hunting groups to manage the resource.

Note: the results were after 700+ tested

PLH, enjoyed the video.

Madforlabs: said, Had never heard the Colorado Dept. of Wildlife Scrapie/Mule deer theory. Would like to know more about that. 

Do a Google search and you can find the information.  It is possible this is where it began.  

Thanks for sharing PLH. Entertainment at its highest order!

Let's see here.... Uncle Ted and James Kroll, both owners of multiple high fence operations and long time advocates of "game farming". No possible bias there....

Had never heard the Colorado Dept. of Wildlife Scrapie/Mule deer theory. Would like to know more about that.

I recently read some interesting news concerning a recent study. To summarize, uninfected deer were directly exposed (ingested) one of three potential transmission vectors from infected deer. Deer urine, deer feces, and deer saliva. Uninfected deer were then monitored over a 2 year period of time.

100% of the deer exposed to saliva became infected. Roughly half the deer ingesting urine or feces became infected. Further, it took much longer for these deer to become infected than those exposed to saliva.

Verification of infection done to live deer via tonsil biopsy.

Not saying this study is highly conclusive but it's very interesting. Further, it tends to support my feeling that SLOWING the spread of CWD can be accomplished to a meaningful degree via a baiting ban which hugely impacts the chance for saliva ingestion and nose to nose contact among deer.

Part of the reason people are not finding a lot of dead deer from CWD is because:

1) Does have much lower infection rates in comparison to bucks 2) Bucks typically are shot dead before 3.5 years of age in WI and before the disease typically kills them

This disease is the worst of all scenarios.  Incredibly long incubation periods and infectivity, and the ability of the prions to live in the soil and remain infective (if prion theory is assumed correct).  If you believe in the prion theory, prions remain "active" even after passing through the intestinal tract of predators.  Coyotes, bears, wolves, etc. have large ranges.  Eagles, crows, vultures, hawks, etc. - imagine the potential spread through scavengers.  Prions can be uptaken by plants which is even more alarming based on the distribution of food in the U.S. and elsewhere.    

As I have previously stated, humans believing they can control, or even measurably impact the spread of, this disease through rule changes or anything else is giving us too much credit.  

And another showing positive cwd farms and hunting ranches in WI.

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/cwd-spreads-on-deer-and-elk-farms-as-wisconsin-s/article_7d7dfdc4-3714-513e-bf36-633f1c982c44.html

Another article. This one with deer from deer farm to "hunting preserve"

https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/deer-herd-put-down-on-farm-in-iowa-county-because/article_045d60d8-c1d4-5c8a-be35-155ed22c7b03.html

Yep..

Did you notice it was a 2-1/2 year old article as well?

OSD, now I have.

Good article, first actual report I have seen.  I have several contacts that hunt Dane county and west and they have not had that observation.

"That is a question that has come up. You ask hunters with cameras, people in the woods year round, farmers, and hard to find reports of sick deer or finding dead deer."

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Did you read the link I provided?

OSD, couple of answers and thoughts to your post:

I'm curious if anybody knows of any data of how many actual cases of CWD have been documented in the hot zone.

"DNR is the only source of that DATA that I am aware of. "

I'm not asking about positive tests. I'm referring to deer that have actually been observed/recovered with CWD.

"   Have to be tested to determine if they died from CWD."

With a positive test rate as high as was stated below, hunters/land owners in the area should be reporting deer with the disease quite often, if the disease is 100% fatal.

"That is a question that has come up. You ask hunters with cameras, people in the woods year round, farmers, and hard to find reports of sick deer or finding dead deer."

Also what is the known time from infection to death? 

"24 months, normally doesn't display symptoms until 18 months.

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/environment/some-fear-that-chronic-wasting-disease-is-spinning-out-of/article_fdd10051-8542-577c-84ed-81d83335cced.html

I did find this article from near the original site of detection in 2002. While cross species infection has yet to be observed the simple fact of prevalence is enough, or should be, to want people to do everything possible to slow the spread and at least prolong Wisconsin's hunting tradition.

I'm curious if anybody knows of any data of how many actual cases of CWD have been documented in the hot zone. I'm not asking about positive tests. I'm referring to deer that have actually been observed/recovered with CWD. With a positive test rate as high as was stated below, hunters/land owners in the area should be reporting deer with the disease quite often, if the disease is 100% fatal. Also what is the known time from infection to death?

JC WIs wrote , CWD may be spread from insects. If this is true it could be from all the wood ticks going from deer to deer?  Call me a tinfoil hat conservative . I am sure the anti hunting crowd loves to see hunters stop shooting deer cause of fear of CWD. No?