antler restrictions

10/9/17 @ 6:30 AM
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IceFishBaby
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I hunt where they have a minimum 4 pt side to be legal (SE Minnesota) but have not seen much improvement other than many basket deer.  I am against antler point restrictions figuring a deer is a trophy to different people for different reasons and why should we legally change that.  

That said, wondering if there is a better way.  Alternating years-one year-4pt minimum, next year, smaller only, that way these basket deer survive to get big.


Thoughts?

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11/23/17 @ 3:41 AM
1pass
1pass
USER since 6/27/17

If you want a bigger buck you have to put in your time.If you want even bigger you have to put in even more time. There are big deer in all areas of Wisconsin trail cameras can prove that.

 We are loosing hunters every year.My thoughts are that we will be coming into some very good times if you stick with it.

  Michigan has a good 2 buck system.Wisconsin could model a system from them. But I think a 1 buck system DNR would loose some revenue then would want to raise price of license.

 But with restrictions come some side effects.When will enough be enough. Guys shooting nice deer will want even nicer deer. It would lead to more "ME Deer My Deer" .

  

Edited on 11/23/17 5:15 AM
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10/22/17 @ 7:48 AM
no-luck
no-luck
USER since 12/14/12

Many great comments and thoughts on this thread.

For context: I am a member of a CDAC and hunt SE MN.

My thoughts:

APR has been accepted and liked by the vast majority of the hunters in the area I hunt.  I think APR would work in a few counties in southern and SW Wisconsin, areas similar to where it has been implemented in MN.

One buck per person would be a step forward. Party drives, no opinion. For the meat hunters who tell me they can't feed their families without liberal issuance of tags, this is what I tell them, heard of grocery stores.

I am troubled by how management strategies and opinions are traveling down a road of Public land versus Private land.  I think we are selling ourselves short of anything less than a quality product for both types of land.

I see something that has been lost is the happiness/joy of harvesting a deer, whether a doe, spike, or wallhanger.  Also, what happened to being happy for the other guy/gal.



Edited on 10/22/17 7:50 AM
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10/20/17 @ 9:28 PM
Wicasa
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Group bagging would be hard to enforce regardless.  Doesn't mean it shouldn't be the law though.

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10/20/17 @ 4:55 PM
Brother of the brush
Brother of the brush
USER since 1/22/12

Excuse me, I'm not the one complaining.  I'm not the one that wants all these laws changed for "me me me" hunters.  There is not one law that I would like to see changed.  I see a few deer a year, shoot a decent buck every couple of years, I'm good with that.

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10/20/17 @ 12:43 PM
lookn' 4 PnY
lookn' 4 PnY
USER since 7/15/05

1 buck would be a great start, group bagging would be next on my list.

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10/20/17 @ 11:53 AM
.Long Barrels
.Long Barrels
USER since 12/9/14

I'm all for one buck...and no group bagging.  It's hard to enforce though when there aren't any wardens.

Edited on 10/20/17 11:53 AM
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10/20/17 @ 10:28 AM
lookn' 4 PnY
lookn' 4 PnY
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Brother, I spent the first 20 years of my hunting career hunting public land in Marinette county.  Nothing better than 20 guys pushing every inch of public land every day of the season.  Never mind all the scouting you did and plans you made but now every deer in the unit is on high alert or sitting on some private sanctuary.  That's ok, cause your crew had a good time and took endless crappy shots at running deer.  I know......your crew does it right, the safe way.  We used to do small pushes on private land year after year, I know the drill.  I was just giving my opinion how to increase the hunting experience on public land.  Do what you will, I don't give a rats ass.  The hunters sick of turd hunters found a way to get access to private land.  Shoot what you want, hunt how you want, but stop complaining when you're the problem.  My biggest buck was from from public land by the way.

Edited on 10/20/17 12:38 PM
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10/20/17 @ 9:38 AM
JC-Wisconsin
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Hunting in an area where different crews literally wait in line to drive out the same chunk of public land day after day, I hate them.  However, I don't know if necessarily outlawing deer drives is a smart move.  I would much rather support the 1 buck per year (regardless of weapon), and eliminating group bagging (yes, hard to enforce - but already illegal for archery season). 

However, outlawing deer drives opening weekend would be a great way to ease tensions for the guy who climbs into a treestand before light opening morning, only to have drivers from a crew drive right under their stand at the opening bell and ruining their hunt for the day.  Been there, it sucks.  

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10/20/17 @ 9:29 AM
.Long Barrels
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I understand the tradition, hanging out and shooting deer,  but I really don't agree with going out on public and raping it.  Take your 10 buddies and drive your own dang private land.  Like i said,  abusing the resources.  I can't do that crap.  The public was there for me when i was in my teens and in college.  It was free and gave me the opportunity to get in the woods.  I couldn't misuse it.  That's just my take on gun hunting and driving.  If you couldn't drive,  the droves of shooters would go there.  

I know a guy that dropped his rifle from the tree.  They were standing around the parking lot and a fawn is peeling across the field.  He says,  I'll see if my scope is on.  Kills this little thing and then no one wanted it.  He ended up finding someone to take it...what he did there are no words for besides irresponsible.  "hahaha,  I guess my scope is ok".  BS

I can't gun hunt anymore,  it just makes me angry.  I go fishing and just listen to the army bang away.

Edited on 10/20/17 9:31 AM
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10/20/17 @ 7:46 AM
lakeshiner
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I think that is pretty common, hunt your own property for the first weekend and then go piss pound the public the second weekend.  I see that quite a bit but more in the farmland areas.  Not so much in the northwoods although I do see some drives from time to time.  I don't even care about full fledged drives though, just guys still hunting or slowly moving is all it takes.  I may even do that this year, I've shot deer before doing that.  Walk a little, sit, walk a little, sit. 

I feel like deer numbers aren't too bad on public areas, the main problem is that people push the deer out quickly, which is more the overcrowding.  Many times I'll go back after a season and see deer again, where there were none 2 weeks prior.  Its no different than guys over hunting private land.  If you had a 40 and had 8 guys walk into it every day, it wouldn't take long for it to suck.

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