Limited season for Xbow's?

1/30/18 @ 1:25 PM
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Alex the dog
Alex the dog
USER since 12/27/01

Anybody catch at the January 24th Wisconsin NRB meeting Gregory Kazmierski's proposal to change the Xbow season structure for able bodied individuals due to % of buck harvest with xbows being higher than verticle bows and firearms?

Note no proposed dates are given, just looking for approval to limit the number of days one can hunt with a Xbow.

Here is the webcast of the NRB meeting, watch at the 5:45 mark for the proposal to come up as a possible question at the spring hearings: 

http://dnrmedia.wi.gov/main/Play/6dfc8e3...86-756192a62f17

I can only imagine what that will start among Wisconsin sportsman.  Maybe long bows can hunt all season, vertical bows get 2/3 of the season and xbows get 1/3 of the season then everyone has equal opportunity at a buck.

Regardless of what an individual uses we should all be concerned if this is acted upon because what type of equipment will be limited next?  Can't use vertical bow that shoots faster than 300fps or maybe only single pin sights vs. multi-pin or the new range finder auto adjusting.

Alex



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4/10/18 @ 3:54 PM
oldhunter
oldhunter
USER since 2/28/13

For everyone concerned, here you go.

Question 18

YES - 2660         NO - 3164

http://dnr.wi.gov/About/WCC/Documents/spring_hearing/2018/2018StatewideResults.pdf

Edited on 4/10/18 3:56 PM
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4/10/18 @ 3:53 PM
JC-Wisconsin
JC-Wisconsin
USER since 4/1/05

Every area is different, and some areas have a lot of deer.  However, these are usually private land areas where landowners are managing responsibly.  I am guessing that is where LB is referring to.

However, to expect hunters to somehow police themselves to not to shoot, that is not going to happen and is frankly lunacy to expect change or blame anyone.  It has not happened historically, and will never happen.  If you have 4 out of 5 groups practice restricted harvest, that 5th group will just shoot the extra deer the other groups passed up.  Once you accept this as fact, then you can move on to the only available measure to prevent overharvest - STOP ALLOWING IT.  Very simple concept, but DNR has no willingness to listen to its customers. 

Again, longer seasons, more seasons, better weapons, and unlimited antlerless tags have resulted in the only thing that could have resulted....and we are seeing it.  The DNR was very efficient at managing numbers and age structure to what was designed. 

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4/10/18 @ 3:25 PM
fltlndr
fltlndr
USER since 12/25/02

What ever dude.

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4/10/18 @ 2:58 PM
.Long Barrels
.Long Barrels
USER since 12/9/14

You worry about yourself pal. I hunt 3 properties,  2 of which I shoot doe.  Are you happy that i filled in the grey area for you?

Edited on 4/10/18 2:59 PM
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4/10/18 @ 1:39 PM
fltlndr
fltlndr
USER since 12/25/02

LB that must suit you just fine after you saying you shoot 2 to 5 does a year a few days ago.

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4/10/18 @ 1:07 PM
.Long Barrels
.Long Barrels
USER since 12/9/14

OO,  that's all you can do pal.

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4/10/18 @ 1:01 PM
OO Buckshot
OO Buckshot
USER since 10/4/05

Well its Wisconsin so a lot of people cant help themselves.  Me personally I wont shoot does not after what I help to create by shooting 1 or 2 does a year in the early 2000s when I was in my teens.  Problem is too many people have to "get theirs".  I do believe people are starting to realize this but not enough to make a big impact especially on public land.  A lot of people when I explain to them about holding off and passing on does to get the herd back up basically I get a piss off.  Fine by me the hunting is going to get worse before it will get better  Ill keep managing the herd based on observations I see in the field and keep watching the amount of hunters decrease every year it will only get better.

Edited on 4/10/18 1:02 PM
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4/10/18 @ 12:38 PM
.Long Barrels
.Long Barrels
USER since 12/9/14

here's a great idea,  the DNR can give whatever and make more seasons,  but how about WI hunters take responsibility and shoot only what they can eat?  WOW,  what a concept.   Everyone knows the WIDNR agenda on reducing the herd,  why do people keep killing where it doesn't need to be thinned out.  My situation,  I see 15 antlerless in the fields and another 15 at the same time 1/4 mile away.  I can shoot 3 a year and so can my buddy off that piece.  However,  a different spot i hunt,  bigger bucks,  better age structure,  less deer, non ag...I don't shoot doe because I see a two doe families all season.  The gun hunters shoot them so leave them alone.

The WIDNR can have a agenda and push it,  but people don't have to be sheep lead out into the pasture.  Other states you see 40 doe a night,  their DNR isn't handing out tags like halloween candy.

It's not the Xbows, it's the hunters.  If we want better hunting and better quality it starts by laying off the trigger and having some patience. 

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4/10/18 @ 11:13 AM
freeguideservice
freeguideservice
USER since 12/4/13

JC-WISCONSIN

A-men BROTHER!!!

Old Governor Doyle & the dnr with there eradication zones, and earn a buck.

If they still had power the entire state would be an eradication zone by now.

Killem all and save the wolves is there model 

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4/10/18 @ 11:12 AM
OO Buckshot
OO Buckshot
USER since 10/4/05

Exactly JC, its a by any means necessary get as many people as they can to kill and keep killing so they want to come back next year.  They know if a person shoots a deer they are highly likely to go out and participate the next year.  They know the amount of hunters going to be significantly reduced over the next decade and they are tying all bubble gum and band aids to fix the problem.  Its a generational and opportunity issue.  Less people in the younger generations are getting into hunting and there is also access issue.  More people are squeezed into the smaller acreage spots where deer numbers are high enough to provide a legitimate chance at shooting a deer every year causing a diminished enjoyment of the hunt.  The other option is to put the leg work and money to hunt the large tracts of northwoods where the opportunity to shoot a deer is limited without a lot of legwork and scouting which is hard to do for people in a time where we demand quick results and rewards.

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