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buckrubtaxidermy
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4/10/12 11:40 AM CST
I need some help in a situation I am dealing with. I hunt on private land that my great uncle owns. He has in the past but rarely let others hunt both bow and turkeys on his property. It never was a real problem, but an annoyance at times. I help him out on his property, take care of trails, food plots for me etc. There is a guy from Racine whom my Uncle still lets out and he just waltzes in and goes pretty much where he chooses to without checking with my other family members. Well now my two sons and another cousin are at the age of hunting and my boy wants to set up a bowstand very close to where I think this guy usually sits. My uncle also told me he thinks he is turkey hunting this week, which is also my sons and I season. This racine dude will have no clue we are there, and I am positive that when I park my truck there earlier than him, that he will still waltz in making a situation more dangerous. I do not want him around, he is not polite and he is not family. I know that this is somewhat selfish on my part as I dont own the land or pay the taxes or own the wildlife. He comes up and reaps the rewards of us protecting the land. My Uncle is older and does not need to deal with the problem so I have not nor will I bring it up with him. What would you do???

I dont have the guys number, and dont want to stir the pot as I dont want to lose our privelage (which it is a huge privelage) to hunt on this property. But he has ruined my hunts in the past and I dont want that to happen to my sons or cousins.

As a side note, this guy used to hunt the neighboring property before he got kicked off, and then he asked my uncle and caught him on a good day, so the guy is slippery to begin with I think.

fishy
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4/16/12 7:58 PM CST
Your in a tough situation, but if I was blood and those were my nephews- blood prevails. Talk to your uncle and explain how much this privileges means to you and your family and explain the guy from Racine is recklass with his privlage and you may be surprised with the responce. If he decides to allow you to contact the other guy you can always tell him you have written permision and this is the level of permision needed to hunt here. Just because you have permission one year doesnt meen you have it on going. I hunt private land and always try to get writen permision each year, some landownwers are OK with the verbal as long as I ask every year I never assume year to year permision- so your uncle can tell the guy with a phone call or a note , or simply a verble will end the permission leval- you can volunteer to enforse it to keep him out of it. This way he has an easy way out of it and avoids the conflict. If your maintaining the property to hunt, if nothing else ask the other hunter for help, if he doesnt abide report that to the uncle. good luck!

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Unreel
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4/16/12 6:55 PM CST
Another thought, and this happened to us this year....we always stop by the farmer the day we arrive - Tuesday. (we also call every year to make sure everything looks good) This year the farmer said that there was someone else that wanted to hunt, but was told that there was someone else there first - us. So the farmer asked us to tell them when we got our birds. So we stopped by on Friday morning because we were all filled up with 3 birds for 3 guys.

Soooo, maybe you could approach your great uncle with a different approach or maybe work something out with the other hunter. Just another option.

OR, if you start hunting on Saturday, maybe the other guy could show up on Wed, Thurs or Fri. We get a whole week now so there are other options if you do not plan to hunt the whole 7 days.

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Chris2fur
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4/16/12 4:07 PM CST
buckrub...I understand your concern...I like knowing I'm the only person out there, especially during turkey season which is the most dangerous.

I also understand being "afraid" of bringing it up with your great uncle as I know land owners that would react the same way you described...

BUT, I would still approach your great uncle in a care free and pleasant manner and just say to him, "hey there uncle, (insert name here) is going on his first turkey hunt this year and I know that other guy will be there. Would you happen to have his phone number so I can call him and make sure we're all a safe distance from each other?"

Nobody wants to see a kid put in harms way or have their hunt ruined.

In the end, I hope you call birds better than the Racine Dude!

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killitgrillit
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4/16/12 11:32 AM CST
As for me being a member of a sheriff dept. if this gentleman's uncle has given him the ok to hunt his land the the hunter in mention is not trespassing. Because permission was given so i suggest to confront the man and work out plans on where the two of you's will be hunting so no accident happen..

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Tim_T
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4/13/12 9:18 PM CST
DNR does not handle trespassing. Call the Sheriff.

Tim

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Mik
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4/13/12 8:41 PM CST
fishsandwich123,

Find where the guy is coming in/parking get his license plate and make, year of vehicle and report him to the nearest sheriffs office and or DNR...Let them handle it and they will.....

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brews4995
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4/13/12 7:56 PM CST
That is an odd combination. Won't let anyone on his land but yet won't do anything about it. I guess what is your relationship with the landowner and the tresspasser. Maybe just a friendly tip to the landowner that someone is possibly trespassing. Maybe he doesn't know someone is on his land. My thought is if he doesn't allow others on, he may do something if he catches or is made aware of others on his land. May even get you access to his land if he see that you truely care about his property.

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fishsandwich123
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4/13/12 5:59 PM CST
What would you guys do if there is a guy hunting on land that you know he is trespassing on, as the owner alows no hunters, but will not do anything about it. It is right next to where I hunt, and the guy is a know trespasser?

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4/12/12 3:21 PM CST
Wow I thought this thread was going to be about my family's property! My situation is very similar. My great uncles, my grandfather, and all their brothers and sisters grew up on this land. Now its just my great uncle and my dad who have legal ownership of it.

My Great uncle's in-laws live right next to the land, and have utiized it for fishing and hnting for decades with zero reciprocation that I know of. I don't really like it because i've had a couple hunts ruined by them after driving over an hour to hunt "private" land.

But, I've been told I'm stuck with them...So the best idea is to communicate and be on speaking terms with them. Contact the Racine dude and take the high ground first in the conversation, let him know where YOU ARE GOING TO HUNT AND WHEN so HE can adjust HIS plans. DO whatever you can to not have your kids' hunt ruined!

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buckrubtaxidermy
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4/11/12 8:44 PM CST
I wish my Uncle had more info and gave more help but he is an old hermit and doesn't even know my address or phone #. Super nice guy to me, but I know that if there is any bull he will pull the trigger on not lettin anyone out there as he did that once in the past when I was a kid when his brothers were fighting over it. That is what makes this so touchy. I really do not want to bring it up with him as he will not deal with it nor wants to. That is why I need the advice on how to handle this guy on my own.

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4/11/12 2:26 PM CST
I agree, accident in the makings...I know, both parties have permission but you really need to get in contact with this "Racine dude". Uncle does not have any contact info on this guy???? name..nothing? Which party has been hunting there longer? IMO,Pointblank...The first to be granted permission should hold the upper hand on who's hunting where. If this other guy doesn't want to play nice, then it's time for your uncle to determine the safety issues at hand and deny access to this other guy. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable Turkey hunting in that situation, especially bringing young hunters out.Who's to say the Racine guy isn't bringing somebody else too. Camo, Turkey hunting, not knowing where everybody is...not good. Maybe hang around the truck on Turkey day to see if the guy shows up and work out a game plan...?

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4/10/12 8:00 PM CST
If you speak to your uncle be sure to stress the safety issue. Not knowing when or where someone will be in low light and wearing camo is just asking for an accident.

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zones4
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4/10/12 11:54 AM CST
Tell your uncle the score, communication is the best way to deal with this instead of trying to do a game of hide and seek with this none family member. If you don't talk to your uncle then tell this guy when he shows up where you are and tell him to stay away from the area. If he does not listen then again now you have something to tell your uncle that he is being unreasonable and not respecting and offer to your uncle to take care of it.

Now if you come back and say you are hunting on 640 acres then there is land space for all, but say 40 or less then stand up and fight for this....worst thing you end up having to find your own spot or hunt public.

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