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gray fox
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4/13/12 11:39 AM CST
JUST GOT BACK FROM THE RANGE SHOOTING MY NEW GSG 1911 22 PISTOL. I TRIED FEDERAL BULK AMMUNITION. I HAD SEVERAL MISFIRES. lAST WEEK USED CCI MINI MAG AMMUNITION, I HAD ABOUT FIVE. BULK AMMO HAS LEAD BULLETS. IS IT ME, OR THE AMMO. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I SHOT THE GUN,PUT A HUNDRED ROUNDS THROUGH IT EACH TIME. SORT OF STRESSES YOU OUT WHEN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER AND NOTHING HAPPENS. WHEN I SHOOT MY GLOCK,PERFECT EVERY TIME. I also learned I wasn't squeezing the grip safty strong enough, which this gun has. Live and learn.

THANKS FOR ANY IDEAS......... Cool

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5/6/12 5:34 PM CST
1up just hit a major issue right on the head if you are having FTE's. Light load .22's need a firm grip to allow the gun to cycle itself properly. If you are denting the round w/out a bang there may be a problem w/ the pistol itself. Have a gunsmith look at the pin...also let them fire it a couple of times w/ their random bulk ammo. More often than not they will have the "misfire" and be able to give you a good recommendation. Lastly...the break-in thought holds merit...only because some people do not properly field strip and lube a new pistol out of the box. A real thorough cleaning out of the box, I'm talking getting ALL of the crap preservative off of the pistol when new, and a good lube will make a HUGE difference. If you are still having issues get in touch w/ GSG and give them a detailed breakdown of what you have done to alleviate the issues. They will take care of you...

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4/18/12 9:16 PM CST
what do you mean by misfires? no hits or light hits on primers? A small caliber semiautomatic also needs really good grip to not allow recoil to be sucked up but that would account for extraction/ejection problems not that it is not going bang. Did you really clean it when you got it and I do not mean the slide and frame if there is a bunch of grease cosmoline what ever in the firing pin block that may cause problems.

gray fox
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4/18/12 7:32 PM CST
Your not much help coach Cool Big Smile Big Smile

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4/17/12 10:27 AM CST
I have lots of ideas.

However, if you're looking for good ideas, I'm afraid I can't help you there. Big Smile

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4/16/12 10:06 AM CST
I just went through the buy process for a new 22 pistol and reveiewed a bunch of them. What I found mentioned for the GSG (and most others) is that they need to have high velocity, 40 grain bullets to work best. CCI mini-mags are often the preferred type. Many of the .22 pistols are very ammo finicky and will not feed more than a brand or 2 reliably.

Another item specific to the GSG was magazine loading. I read on a forum that after you load the magazine you should use the thumb lever on the mag to relieve pressure on the loads and then tilt or tap the magazine back. This will ensure that all of the rounds are stacked against the back of the magazine and supposedly helps with feeding. I've always done this with all of my .22 magazines, regardless of manufacturer.

I ended up buying a Ruger SR22 based on all of the good comments that I found. Specifically, it is supposed to be very ammo insensitive and shoots just about anything. I have about 200 rounds through it without a singe issue with several different brands of ammo. Very fun pistol that is my new favorite range gun.

gray fox
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4/14/12 10:33 PM CST
Thanks guys .....I shoot about 125 rounds so far.....cci mini mags seem to work best so far. i will try using a small box of different brands. This sounds like a good idea. It has some jams and nmiss fires. Really a nice solid gun otherwise. I hope, maybe it just needs breaking in.

Thanks again...... Cool

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4/14/12 8:15 PM CST
How many rounds have you fired? I recently put together an AR15 in .223 but also got a CMMG .22 conversion kit. With the .22 conversion regardless of ammo it would jam at least once within every 5 shots. Some were fail to feed and others fail to eject. Contacted the mfg and they stated I needed at least 200 rounds to "break it in". I was PO'd and thought that was a bunch of crap, but figured what did I have to lose. At the end of my last shooting session a few weeks ago it was cycling ok. That was around the 200 mark. Well I just got back from shooting 75 rounds today without a single failure. Maybe your pistol just needs to be fired and "broken in". I still don't think that should be the case with any new gun. They should work right of the box. Just a thought. Was thinking about picking one of those up myself in the future.

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4/14/12 7:26 PM CST
I have a Sig Mosquito. It is very picky when it comes to ammo. What I have found to work best is a High Velocity round with a 40gr bullet. I've shot alot of different brands of ammo and the one I Like best are the CCI Blazer. They are a lead 40gr round nose bullet. I've also had good luck with Winchester 555 Bulk pack and M-22 bulk. Definately a good idea to buy a bunch of 50 round boxes just to try different brands, that is exactly how I found what works best in my guns. Good Luck!

gray fox
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4/14/12 11:37 AM CST
Thanks guys I will try all. I was thinking, it may be a Magazine problem.I noticed one of the mags when loaded....round was not sitting as high as other mags?? Cool

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4/14/12 8:04 AM CST
Guided, My S&W M41 will not shoot any Remington ammo reliably but never has an issue with CCI, Eley, Wolf, or RWS.

If I was gray fox I would pick up 2 or 3 small boxes of different ammo and try them. If they work fine it might just be a finicky gun but if there are more misfires I would send it back for repair.

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4/14/12 7:05 AM CST
Gray Fox,

Something is not right, .22 ammo is far more reliable than that when it comes to ignition. I have several .22 pistols (Ruger MK I, MK II target, S&W Model 41) and a misfire itself is fairly rare. More apt a failure to feed problem depending on the magazine or the style of bullet.

On the round that did not fire did you inspect the rim and observe the strike of the firing pin? It should be substantially indented. On the rounds that do fire inspect them and see that there is no slight bulge just in front of the rim, you want to make sure you pistol is going fully into battery. If it is not and it is still allowing you to fire it something else is not right.

There is no reason for a rimfire pistol to hickup that much unless something is wrong. Even the cheap ammo is not that bad, its the same stuff that gets run by the bucket load thru 10-22's.

good luck GF

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4/14/12 5:59 AM CST
Years back my Marlin rifle would not eject Federal . Had to pry every other one out with a knife tip .

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4/13/12 2:42 PM CST
It sounds like you have a finicky gun when it comes to ammo. That's really not that rare with rimfires. I have a Kimber 22 rifle that is very finicky. Try a bunch of different ammos and you will find a couple that will work fine. Ive found Remington 22 ammo to be the worst when it comes to this problem.

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4/13/12 1:11 PM CST
i use winchester ammo for eveyrthing handgun to rifle when i shoot .22 i do see a misfire or two everytime i shoot so i think it might be common denominator of the rimfire ammo i do know towards the end of the day is when i see my misfires dirty gun gun be helping the culprit a little in the last 10 years have never had a centerfire misfire

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