Turtle Flambeau Flowage, Iron County

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4/14/18 @ 3:12 PM
57deno
57deno
USER since 4/14/18

What are the chances that there will be open water on opening weekend?

There definitely needs to be some kind of slot limit or size limit put on the walleyes.  So many 12"ers.  Doesn't make sense that there are size limits on crappies and not walleyes.

My 2 cents worth.

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4/14/18 @ 8:04 AM
nihsif
nihsif
MEMBER since 6/15/01

Lundangler ... agree with your assessment , and those are the reasons why the TFF needs regulations specific to the TFF, like the panfish regs are

edit: while I know folks want to catch fish and harvest some, I think there is something special about the TFF, the wilderness experience, the variety of water and scenery... it is a special place/destination beyond a fishery

Edited on 4/14/18 8:07 AM
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4/6/18 @ 6:32 PM
Jeff Robl
Bobber Down Turtle Flambeau
USER since 7/10/12

260 rem, in Florida doing some fishing in the Keys, called home I guess we've gotten about 10" of snow in the last week or so. Temps have gotten down to the single digits some nights, I'm sure there is plenty of ice, snow depth probably not too bad on the lakes for atv's.

I've read the dialog on walleye size limits, nice to see constructive ideas and opinions. The DNR is looking for input on a potential rule change for the TFF.

A proposal on the table for more public input is a 3 walleye limit with a 12" minimum one fish could be over 15"

This would be a special rule change specific to the TFF, it is outside of the biologist's menu of options and requires a longer approval process. 

Last post by I think it was Lundfisher best describes my overall opinion. Science should be an over riding factor on rules for a specific body of water. A straight up 15" min. on a fishery like the TFF would probably produce a stockpiling sub 15" male fish.

My history of fishing the TFF isn't as long as some, I do agree in the 70's there was a bigger overall size structure on the flowage, I feel there were many reasons for this.

In recent study the data hasn't changed significantly, it is interesting reading, like everything in the world it can easily be "googled". Here are a few highlights:

2009/2010 creel survey      Total harvest (walleyes): 12,166

                                            catch rate/hr/fish  3.9

                                            harvest rate/hr./fish 6.4

                                            mean length       14.0

20016/2017                     same data :     14,266

                                                                  4.0

                                                                 8.4

                                                                13.9


Will the ice be out?? May 5th

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4/4/18 @ 12:05 PM
260 REM
260 REM
USER since 7/17/02

Can anyone post a report on travel conditions? Can a person get around on the lake with an ATV or did TFF get a foot of snow? 

Thanks

260rem

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4/3/18 @ 4:06 PM
LundAngler*
LundAngler*
USER since 7/15/16

The big problem with a one size fits all solution...not all lakes are created equal.  The TFF is a mesotrophic lowland impoundment flowage.  These types of waters are well documented to produce higher numbers of small(er) fish.  Several natural factors affect growth rates, but three of the primary ones are food sources, duration of the growing season, and predators.  Because perch are a primary food source for walleye in the TFF, growth is inhibited.  Contrast that with a food source with higer fat content (Like shad/tulibee in Mille Lacs) with the same growing season and what do you see...larger walleye.   A slot may have some impact on size structure in the TFF, but it will never be the trophy water Mille Lacs is because of the lower growth rates.  It's also one of the primary reasons you mostly catch hammerhandle pike in TFF.  I'm not saying fishing and spearing aren't playing a role, but the TFF has been fished & speared hard for 30 years.  You have to take a step back and look at potential of the waterbody.  I would really like to see the creel census info for the last ten years.  I'm betting there isn't as big of a difference in catch rates as the latest DNR population report might lead you to believe.  Do you know what the slot on the Wisconsin River produces?  Answer: Lot's of 14 1/2" fish.

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4/3/18 @ 12:28 PM
lakeshiner
lakeshiner
USER since 7/20/09

My idea would be to have 3 fish with a 15" minimum size in place, but allow 1 fish under the minimum.  Its kinda the opposite of the 1 over 14" limit you see on a lot of lakes.

The 1 under idea is just so people coming here can still have a shorelunch if they are struggling to catch a 15" fish, while still making them throw most of the small fish back.  This place is more unique with the remote camping so it would be nice to allow people to keep 1 fish while still reducing the overall take of small fish.

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4/3/18 @ 11:58 AM
TFFoltimer
TFFoltimer
USER since 4/3/18

Without a doubt the size and number of the walleye in the TFF is as poor as I have seen in many many years of fishing this water. 

I am all for a slot limit or some kind of size regulation.

Something that I have never heard anyone propose is a tag system. You get 20 or 30 tags a year, whatever the number may be, and those are your walleye for the year. When the fish goes in your basket you tag it. When you are out of tags, you are done KEEPING walleye. You could still fish for them if you would like. The DNR would be able to manage population numbers much more accurately this way.

At any rate. This is a conversation that needs to be had. As we have all seen a steep decline in walleye numbers and size on the TFF. Truly sad.

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4/2/18 @ 9:53 AM
fishnut_2008
fishnut_2008
USER since 2/27/08

No one can argue the decreased numbers and sizes of walleyes in the TFF.  There are numerous winter fisheries with hundreds of entrants and often a 20" walleye comes out on top.  The bottom line is that something needs to be done soon - eventually everyone will grow tired of these 10" and 12" walleyes.  I'm not a freezer filler - I enjoy the sporting aspects of fishing.  If I want to eat fish a couple crappies will do the trick.

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4/1/18 @ 3:04 PM
Deeplaker
Deeplaker
USER since 1/26/13

TTF already has a more restrictive bag limit than the statewide limit. Radical change is much harder to pass than something a little subtle. A minimum size limit would be easier to regulate and much more likely to get enough support. A 15 or 18 inch minimum with a 3 fish limit allows anglers to keep a nice meal. Just downstream is the 5 under 14 or 4 under and one over 18 slot. Living near the area and seeing the effects was terrible. Small fish were annihilated below the dams in spring. Why does no one ever mention building a hatchery or rearing ponds like other places do. Modern day equipment is tough to compete with. This would once again make this a premier fishery. Why impose more and more regulations? Just my opinion for what it's worth.

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4/1/18 @ 11:04 AM
nocfisher
nocfisher
USER since 5/27/17

Ahhhhhh key word FUN catching.Its all about what goes in the freezer for most people now days.

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