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drslyr4
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7/23/14 8:06 PM CST
Conditions: Raining Air Temp: 86° - 90° F Water Temp: 51° - 55° F
Went out last night 4-8 before the storm hit. fished 50-80 fow. marking few fish and some pods of bait. just before the rain hit the fish turned on but we had to pull the plug due to lightning to the north. went 3-4 as follows green brad on rigger set 38 7 pound coho, green dodger/llb wire dipsy 200loc 21 pound laker released, white dodger/ milw minnow on rigger down 28 15 pound brown. missed one on purple rain spoon on rigger at 45. really didn't want to go but better be safe. Sure hard to find someone who wants to go fishing lately.

Drslyr

JASON WODA
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7/23/14 6:56 PM CST
Easy guys, this is suppose to be informative. Happy happy! No need for that stuff.


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7/23/14 5:13 PM CST
Psst Mr Chin my buddy Jzzzz works the creel surveys and helps DNR on a Regular basis......period so if you can't say something nice then you know the rest...Fishing report= Sunday went 3-4 so numbers got better and when marked fish like this we caught em quick vid of year so far http://youtu.be/S2u-otqIDDA

Jzzzzz
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7/23/14 5:06 PM CST
ok. yeah good info for forums..... as for posts I guess we could say the same for you, other than your constant crying of poor fishing, and conspiracy. im out usually fri-sun, with avg. of 8-10 fish per trip so im not complaining.

chintastic
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7/23/14 4:27 PM CST
Jzzzz,

you literally contribute to no fishing reports, no pictures, or any fishing related topics. I have watched you do this almost every time. If my guess was right, you just leach info off this site.

I think reports and concerns for the lake are both very helpful information.

Jzzzzz
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7/23/14 4:18 PM CST
small craft advisory is done at 7pm time ta fish fellas, getting a little squirly on here today! goodfishin all! Wondering

JASON WODA
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7/23/14 4:15 PM CST
What difference do the heads make, all it tells u is where they were stocked. These fish travel long distance, we know that, but in August, which is only a few weeks away, we will only see mostly Milwaukee stocked fish. Yes they return to place of stocking. FYI, other than a few weeks last year, the king fishing wasn't that great either, most catches for a 6 week period consisted of bows and offshore coho. Even though numbers were good per trip, it wasn't kings, but steelhead and coho numbers going forward will be on the decline as well. Not trying to say I know everything here guys, but we may be in trouble. For those who fish 1 maybe 2 days a week it might not seem that different, but I can tell u from time on the water this year that something is happening. Hope it changes on this northeast wind. Cause from what I am understanding here is that I have no idea what I am talking about. Apparently we are not catching Fis because there is no thermocline, the water is too clear, not going deep enough, need to run less baits, wrong trolling speed.... Did I miss any? All of these things have been covered. Zebra mussels have been here long enough and we have adapted enough to catch fish in clear water....btw the water the last week hasn't been that clear. Exactly what we need is more walleyes??? Before we figure out what is going on here? Those walleyes will never leave the river, ask walleyes for tomorrow how that went almost a decade ago. Perch were throttled commercially to start that decline, and we may never get them back, although I would like to see it happen too. Ok, done now. Argue it out, I will see you at the August meetings!! And on the water!


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MuskyHunter
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7/23/14 3:39 PM CST
I ask again, has anyone turned in heads of stocked fish. This is very useful data. Not hard to save a head vs dropping down the grinder.

1T
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7/23/14 3:28 PM CST
What speed are the Charters trolling at? hope you guy don't mind me asking?

midnight
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7/23/14 3:06 PM CST
Fish onn - part of the reasoning for stocking walleye vs. perch is :

#1 - that the gobies eat the perch eggs when they spawn vs. the walleyes will run up the river ( more current ) and thus less eggs will hopefully be eaten.

#2 - the walleys will eat gobies once they get bigger where the perch are less likely to

also - the brown trout fishing will hardly get "wiped out" using your words...the browns currently can't eat enough gobies...the more fish eating the gobies the better chances the perch will have

another detriment to the perch are the commerants - you want to do something get those perch eating machines off the federally protected species list so something can be done about the commerant population

probably the biggest concern to us fisherman are the mussels - both the zebra and the quags......a big reason the salmon aren't coming in as close for the shore fisherman to catch IMO...when you can see the bottom in 50ft of water on a clear day looking from above the surface...the lake is getting to sterile and thus the bait don't have enough or as much to eat.

midnight

Fish Onn
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7/23/14 2:54 PM CST
Thank you Jason for having the GUTS to make the posting that you did. Just like the frequent fishing reports that you post, this post was truthful, thorough, and a honest assessment of the fishing conditions in EVERY Lake Michigan port this year.

The big point to take away from this is that we ALL have to get involved by being active participants in the WDNR's 10 year Lake Management plan that is coming up for public review and participation in August. From making up most of our catches in past years, this year has seen a limited return of kings in our boxes, with most of our catches being lakers, rainbows, and cohos. A complete reversal of the last 30+ years.

When the stocking cuts were implemented due to evidence of large natural reproduction, there WAS a dissenting opinion from a group of Michigan Fisheries biologists who felt that the non-adipose clipped fish were not all natural reproduction, but fish that had swam into Lake Michigan from Lake Huron. Their dissenting opinion that severe stocking cuts were not needed was squashed by WI & MI DNR leadership.

I think it is time to revisit the severe stocking cuts in light of the huge numbers of baitfish that we have been marking the past two seasons.

For those of us in Milwaukee, the WDNR wants to dump huge numbers of walleyes into the Milwaukee harbor the next few years. They won't stock perch, but want to stock walleyes. Go figure.

For those guys who enjoy the super harbor brown trout fishery in spring and fall (and a normal winter), the prospect of 100,000+ walleyes stocked in our harbor will wipe out the brown trout fishery.

We definitely have to review and monitor all the plans that the WDNR is proposing for our fishery over the next 10 years.

Again, thank you Jason for your posts on this AND your always honest fishing reports.

JASON WODA
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7/23/14 2:13 PM CST
Thanks for the stocking numbers, you saved me some typing. Many people have no idea what the numbers have been for the last 4 years, thus making my point of educating yourself on the fishery you love. It's not just here in Milwaukee, I talk on a daily basis to captains in ports from Indiana to door county..... It's everywhere. I am a giant fan of what the dnr has done with this fishery since I was a kid. I am by no means kicking anyone in the butt. They have done a fantastic job, but everyone makes a mistake now and then, and it might not even be a mistake. I am no biologist, so only time will tell. I was just simply stating that we need to keep an eye on it. Good luck!


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BERT MARR
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7/23/14 1:27 PM CST
Conditions: Sunny Air Temp: 71° - 75° F Water Temp: 56° - 60° F
Late report for Saturday but I did have a good day. I took a group out and did pretty well for what we have been doing lately. Started 70 to 90 fow and went 5 for 8 all spoons in top 40 fow. Lead core and copper still dominates the spread. After a couple hrs I asked the guys about trying deep and they were game. Went out to 310 fow and took about 20 minutes and we tripled up. All bows and went 10 more minutes and picked up a laker { top 20 feet}. Ended 9 for 15. 2,3,4,5 color leadcore and 75,200 copper all took fish. Here are a few pic from the trip


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7/23/14 12:11 PM CST
Wisconsin Chinook Stocking Numbers: 2006 - 1,166,185 2007 - 1,112,562 2008 - 724,545 2009 - 995,804 2010 - 1,234,994 2011 - 1,127,444 2012 - 1,175,213 2013 - 798,272

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/fishing/Documents/LakeMichigan/StockingSummary2013.pdf

King catches this year will be primarily from the 2011-2013 stockings and natural reproduction. As you can see those years did not have stocking cuts. The last major cut didn't take place until 2013.

I think most guys are missing the part about not everyone of these stocked fish survives or the natural fish for that matter. Young of the year kings are dependent on young of the year alewives. The last bumper crop of young of the year alewives was in 2010, with bad hatches in 2011 and 2013. 2012 was a average year. So the young of the year king class of 2010 had lots of young alewives to eat and very good survival. We all saw that in 2012 with the banner catch of kings with most everyone being 2yr olds at 9-14#. Now the ones that made it into 2013 from the 2010 yr class turned into whoppers which we saw last year. The 2011 yr class of alewives sucked so I would expect not nearly as good survival of the young of the year 2011 kings which would be our larger 3yr old kings this year..15# plus. The 7-14# kings most of us are catching are from the 2012 year class of kings and they are more numerous since the 2012 year class of alewives was decent. This pattern will go on and on. It all comes down to the bait, and with that we need to error on the side of caution. Especially since we have no control of the natural component, I know I don't want a Lake Huron and with only two major year classes of alewives out there we need to proceed with caution.

Also guys there are very very very very few 4yr old kings in the lake like less then a couple percent. We catch 2yr old and 3yr old kings not 4yr olds. It's been this way for 15-20yrs but the misconception still exists that we catch 4yr olds. We do not.

[This post was last edited on 7/23/14 at 12:18 PM]
cruiser
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7/23/14 12:04 PM CST
I also ran out to 350 over the weekend. Caught a number of rainbows and Lakers. No kings to show for it though.

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